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Guns And Weed – The Road To Freedom
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:20 am
by MSimon
Guns And Weed – The Road To Freedom - Because Liberty Is Indivisible
http://classicalvalues.com/2011/08/guns ... o-freedom/
You can watch the whole movie - links at the above - plus the post has a trailer so you can get a preview.
From the trailer: “I was an undercover narcotics officer [secret police - Ed.], the Drug War is nothing but a farce.”
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:00 am
by hanelyp
The idea of mixing firearms and mind altering drugs makes me very nervous. It doesn't go well with the Clint Eastwood school of gun control.
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:52 am
by IntLibber
as opposed to drinking and driving? Or smoking and voting?
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:53 am
by kunkmiester
A political mix versus a literal mix are totally different.
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:05 am
by Giorgio
My personal stance is that the whole "war on drugs" is just pure nonsense.
Liberalizing light drugs will not bring society on the verge of destruction like many are claiming, and we have many countries where weed is legal that can easily prove this point.
And this is coming from a person that never smoked nor took any type of drugs in his life.
Same goes for weapons possession.
I think that citizen possession of weapons is a good deterrent to the ambition and greed of our "dear" leaders who tend to forget too easily who is actually paying their salaries.
Just look the situation in Switzerland and compare it to the rest of the world.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:05 pm
by IntLibber
Giorgio wrote:My personal stance is that the whole "war on drugs" is just pure nonsense.
Liberalizing light drugs will not bring society on the verge of destruction like many are claiming, and we have many countries where weed is legal that can easily prove this point.
And this is coming from a person that never smoked nor took any type of drugs in his life.
Same goes for weapons possession.
I think that citizen possession of weapons is a good deterrent to the ambition and greed of our "dear" leaders who tend to forget too easily who is actually paying their salaries.
Just look the situation in Switzerland and compare it to the rest of the world.
you act like politicians dont KNOW that armed citizens are a threat to their path of corruption feeding at the public trough.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:52 pm
by Giorgio
I know very well that they know. The problem is simply that there is not yet enough citizens that understand this, but I am confident that the coming harsh times will teach many to open their eyes and start using their brain.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:19 pm
by Skipjack
The idea of mixing firearms and mind altering drugs makes me very nervous. It doesn't go well with the Clint Eastwood school of gun control.
Yeah, it kinda sounds a bit creepy, hu?
I do think that drug users should be decriminalized. Jail wont help their drug problem and certainly will not do away with the reason for it either.
BUT, I am against allowing anyone to deal any drug. Light drugs like marihuana, could be legalized with a dutch model. The rest should still be illegal to sell (spanish model), but there could be controlled administration to addicts in special clinics, where they also get therapy and treatment for whatever makes them "self medicate". Self medication, no matter what drug it is, is never a good idea, unless you are a medical professional and even among medical doctors there is a bit of a frowning at that.
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:29 am
by hanelyp
When the drug in question impairs judgement, self medication is a bad idea, period.
I could go with illicit drug use being a class of offense not necessarily carrying jail time or fine, but disqualifying the drug abuser from activities , such as firearm usage, where poor judgement threatens the public. The common drug pusher should remain classed as a common criminal.
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:34 am
by choff
Read a story in the local paper today. Seems one stoner up north phoned the local RCMP detachment thinking it was a dial a dope operation. He arranged to meet with the police officer and promised to exchange some Oxycotin for the Weed. He got busted for carrying an illegal weapon along with everything else.
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:21 am
by Skipjack
In case of weed, I would at least ask for the same restrictions that currently apply to alcohol to apply to this drug as well.
I am not sure about the regulations in the US, but I would assume that it is not allowed to handle firearms while under the influence. I might be wrong though.
In Austria we have a mandatory psych evaluation before people get a carrying permit (and that got a lot more difficult recently, something I am not sure was necessary).
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:32 am
by Giorgio
Skipjack wrote:In case of weed, I would at least ask for the same restrictions that currently apply to alcohol to apply to this drug as well.
I strongly second that.