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Open Source Climate Models And Temperature Sets

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:58 am
by MSimon
In the comments at:

http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2010/01/08 ... ia-effect/

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It looks like the Official Climate folks are going to get some competition.

It will probably be six months to a year before we see results.

The fall out from ClimateGate has only begun.

I remember in '75 that the High Priests of the Computer were despised like you couldn't believe. No one wanted to be spindled, folded, or mutilated by the computer crowd. We now have enough hp to start challenging the Climate Priesthood.

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From the comments:
If airplanes were built the way GISS and CRU do climate science I would not live within 100 miles of an airport or major airway. (I doubt any airplane designed that way would make it more than 100 miles, so that ought to be a safe limit ;-)

The one thing that has been driven home to me more than anything else in this whole “Global Warming” technical investigation is just how much more rigorous Engineering is when compared to “science” and “research”.
That is something I have noticed as well. If you go to boards where engineers congregate the scepticism level runs 80% to 90%. Some times more.

The Crap known as Climate science may pass peer review. It would go down in flames in a design review.

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:50 am
by Josh Cryer
What will be more interesting is if they ever can convince a PHd to believe their results (likely they will ignore any homogenization methods, because they don't understand them), and attempt to publish said results in a publication.

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:31 pm
by MSimon
Josh Cryer wrote:What will be more interesting is if they ever can convince a PHd to believe their results (likely they will ignore any homogenization methods, because they don't understand them), and attempt to publish said results in a publication.
Au Contraire. If you followed my link to Chiefio homogenization is discussed. It has also been deeply gone into at Climate Audit.

In fact I was a part of some of those discussions.

But you are a bright young lad. Care to discuss homogenization? We can go into their fill in the blanks methodology as well. And how that might bias the results.

Or we can just wait for results and critique them.

You see I have been a member (peripheral) of the open source climate movement for rather a long time. But I have added some knowledge of instrumentation (my specialty) and my knowledge of shipboard life (older ocean data) to the corpus.

There are some very bright lads involved in the open source climate movement. Brighter than Jones, Mann, Schmidt, Briffa, et. al.