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Jccarlton
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Walking in Hitler and Stalin's shoes

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Oliver Stones new vision, understanding Hitler:
http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2010/ ... scape.html

with Stalin and Mao to come. A true Progressive can nuance anything.

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Makes me want to puke.

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Skipjack wrote:Makes me want to puke.
Ditto, but then Stone has always wanted to make me puke.

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The topic is like an old chewing gum. It has lost its taste a long time ago. It has been chewed many, many times. It is boring me to death. But unfortunately it also keeps sticking arround and is almost impossible to get rid off.

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Mussolini liked FDR:
An article from the New York Times in July, 1933 has Mussolini speaking about the New Deal.

"Your plan for coordination of industry follows precisely our lines of cooperation.

And even went as far as calling FDR a "social-fascist".
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Skipjack wrote:Makes me want to puke.
Agree. Guilt free puke in my case.

Oliver Stone is an ass. But I do love Natural Born Killers. That was a great flick.

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Re: Walking in Hitler and Stalin's shoes

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Jccarlton wrote:Oliver Stones new vision, understanding Hitler:
http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2010/ ... scape.html

with Stalin and Mao to come. A true Progressive can nuance anything.
You know, the real bad guys. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and McCarthy.

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Killers

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seedload wrote:
Skipjack wrote:Makes me want to puke.
Agree. Guilt free puke in my case.

Oliver Stone is an ass. But I do love Natural Born Killers. That was a great flick.
If you like that then you should love this film, from the description it sounds like this will be a sequel, Natural Born Killers 2. Bigger and badder than the original.

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A co-worker, formerly a citizen of the Soviet Union, recently started studying the history of the place without the filtering that was in place when he was a kid. He is absolutely appalled at what a horror the system was under Stalin.

He absolutely adores the US, and would not move back if you beat him with a stick.

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Tom Ligon wrote:A co-worker, formerly a citizen of the Soviet Union, recently started studying the history of the place without the filtering that was in place when he was a kid.
I wished everyone did that. We would have a lot less extreme left wingers then.

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Soviet conservatives

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There's still a crowd within Russia that remembers Stalin as the guy who inherited what was basically a third world country and turned it into a nuclear armed super power.

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bcglorf wrote:There's still a crowd within Russia that remembers Stalin as the guy who inherited what was basically a third world country and turned it into a nuclear armed super power.
Bullshit! The industrialization started already under the Tsar.
My best friends great grand parents built most of the railroads there. Many German engineers moved to Russia to help build the railroad system and to help Russias industrialization. Of course the communists later claimed that for themselves. They merely continued that though and killed 32 million people in the process...

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I know

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Skipjack wrote:
bcglorf wrote:There's still a crowd within Russia that remembers Stalin as the guy who inherited what was basically a third world country and turned it into a nuclear armed super power.
Bullshit! The industrialization started already under the Tsar.
My best friends great grand parents built most of the railroads there. Many German engineers moved to Russia to help build the railroad system and to help Russias industrialization. Of course the communists later claimed that for themselves. They merely continued that though and killed 32 million people in the process...
I know that, my ancestors were from Prussia, and my great grandfather fled Stalin's regime for Canada in between WW1 and 2. I'm just saying there are still surprisingly many in Russia that remember things... differently.

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bcglorf wrote:I know that, my ancestors were from Prussia, and my great grandfather fled Stalin's regime for Canada in between WW1 and 2. I'm just saying there are still surprisingly many in Russia that remember things... differently.
Ah, people who believe things were different, I see. Sorry I missunderstood you.

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Skipjack wrote:
bcglorf wrote:There's still a crowd within Russia that remembers Stalin as the guy who inherited what was basically a third world country and turned it into a nuclear armed super power.
Bullshit! The industrialization started already under the Tsar.
My best friends great grand parents built most of the railroads there. Many German engineers moved to Russia to help build the railroad system and to help Russias industrialization. Of course the communists later claimed that for themselves. They merely continued that though and killed 32 million people in the process...
Speaking of Russian railroads:

http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/it/w ... s-railroad
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