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We could do a lot worse...

And sadly, we probably will.
When opinion and reality conflict - guess which one is going to win in the long run.

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Diogenes wrote: Had this been a Republican (Sarah Palin) the headlines on every newspaper in the country would have been "Palin Disbarred! License to practice law Suspended!"
no, it wouldnt happen with any republican. But it would happen with Sarah Palin, who just happens to be a moron who cant even differentiate between South and North Korea.

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Did you read how she didn't confuse the two previously?

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Diogenes wrote:
Betruger wrote:Yeah that's the joke.. There's nothing extraordinary about Obama. He's a very mediocre villain.
I keep saying this. The man is an imbecile. He IS an idiot. He's never done ANYTHING in his life that wasn't involving the Government in some way.
exactly. Thats why you must elect Sarah Palin, the genius.

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Betruger wrote:Did you read how she didn't confuse the two previously?
she did confuse it in that interview. When she CLEARLY heard the man asking about NORTH Korea. And she said North Korea two times. And her answer was so generic that it clearly shows she has no clue. An imbecile. Go ahead and elect her. I am sure it will be an excellent government... to the rest of the world.

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AcesHigh wrote:
Diogenes wrote: Had this been a Republican (Sarah Palin) the headlines on every newspaper in the country would have been "Palin Disbarred! License to practice law Suspended!"
no, it wouldnt happen with any republican. But it would happen with Sarah Palin, who just happens to be a moron who cant even differentiate between South and North Korea.
I want to use a lot harsher language to address you, but I will refrain. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and consider you to be a victim of the lying press.

The interview in which Sarah Palin mispeaks contains several previous comments regarding South Korea being our ally and the north being our enemy. But her response to this Manufactured propaganda is absolutely brilliant.
"My fellow Americans in all 57 states, the time has changed for come. With our country founded more than 20 centuries ago, we have much to celebrate – from the FBI’s 100 days to the reforms that bring greater inefficiencies to our health care system. We know that countries like Europe are willing to stand with us in our fight to halt the rise of privacy, and Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s. And let’s face it, everybody knows that it makes no sense that you send a kid to the emergency room for a treatable illness like asthma and they end up taking up a hospital bed. It costs, when, if you, they just gave, you gave them treatment early, and they got some treatment, and ah, a breathalyzer, or an inhalator. I mean, not a breathalyzer, ah, I don’t know what the term is in Austrian for that…



Of course, the paragraph above is based on a series of misstatements and verbal gaffes made by Barack Obama (I didn’t have enough time to do one for Joe Biden). YouTube links are provided just in case you doubt the accuracy of these all too human slips-of-the-tongue. If you can’t remember hearing about them, that’s because for the most part the media didn’t consider them newsworthy. I have no complaint about that. Everybody makes the occasional verbal gaffe – even news anchors.



Obviously, I would have been even more impressed if the media showed some consistency on this issue. Unfortunately, it seems they couldn’t resist the temptation to turn a simple one word slip-of-the-tongue of mine into a major political headline. The one word slip occurred yesterday during one of my seven back-to-back interviews wherein I was privileged to speak to the American public about the important, world-changing issues before us.



If the media had bothered to actually listen to all of my remarks on Glenn Beck’s radio show, they would have noticed that I refer to South Korea as our ally throughout, that I corrected myself seconds after my slip-of-the-tongue, and that I made it abundantly clear that pressure should be put on China to restrict energy exports to the North Korean regime. The media could even have done due diligence and checked my previous statements on the subject, which have always been consistent, and in fact even ahead of the curve. But why let the facts get in the way of a good story? (And for that matter, why not just make up stories out of thin air – like the totally false hard news story which has run for three days now reporting that I lobbied the producers of “Dancing with the Stars” to cast a former Senate candidate on their show. That lie is further clear proof that the media completely makes things up without doing even rudimentary fact-checking.)



“Hope springs eternal” as the poet says. Let’s hope that perhaps, just maybe, they might get it right next time. When we the people are effective in holding America’s free press accountable for responsible and truthful reporting, then we shall all have even more to be thankful for!



Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!



- Sarah Palin



The original at her facebook page is much better because it contains all the hyper-links to the comments she references.


http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=463364218434

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JLawson wrote:We could do a lot worse...

And sadly, we probably will.

We did.

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TallDave wrote:
Diogenes wrote:Looks like I was prophetic in this post.

viewtopic.php?p=36155&highlight=allen#36155
On Thanksgiving, here’s a guy for whom all red-blooded Americans should be truly grateful. Allen West might just be the black president to save the US in 2012 from the ruins created by the previous one.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/james ... president/
I'm mostly swearing off politics here, but I gotta say: I love this guy. I don't think he will ever be President, but man I love his style.

I am likewise much less inclined, but on occasion I expect some news item will prompt me out of my apathy.

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AcesHigh wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
Betruger wrote:Yeah that's the joke.. There's nothing extraordinary about Obama. He's a very mediocre villain.
I keep saying this. The man is an imbecile. He IS an idiot. He's never done ANYTHING in his life that wasn't involving the Government in some way.
exactly. Thats why you must elect Sarah Palin, the genius.
I no longer have any doubts that Sarah Palin is a genius. She shakes the government with just a few words. (Death Panels) The slam down she did on the Barbra and George H.W. Bush (Blue Bloods who don't know any better) was the worst thing she could have possibly done to them and in the briefest possible words. She is a Napoleon of Politics.

The only issue as to whether or not she could be President is whether or not it is possible to overcome the "Poisoned Well" created by the Lying Liberal news and entertainment industries.

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AcesHigh wrote:
Betruger wrote:Did you read how she didn't confuse the two previously?
she did confuse it in that interview. When she CLEARLY heard the man asking about NORTH Korea. And she said North Korea two times. And her answer was so generic that it clearly shows she has no clue. An imbecile. Go ahead and elect her. I am sure it will be an excellent government... to the rest of the world.

Stop getting your false information poured into your brain by the media. Your information is completely wrong.

As for the current Precedent, a Windup Toy Monkey would be an improvement.

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Diogenes wrote: Had this been a Republican (Sarah Palin) the headlines on every newspaper in the country would have been "Palin Disbarred! License to practice law Suspended!"
That could only happen in an alternate universe where Palin was actually able to pass the Bar exam. In our world, she spent 6 years in various universities and colleges to come out with an undergrad degree in journalism.

The existence of Fox News ruins most complaints about a lack of headlines negative of the left.

For pity sake, Fox is actually stirring dissent against Obama by calling Afghanistan 'his war' and trying to make the engagement there a negative attribute to hang around the necks of the Dems! AH!!!!!!

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bcglorf wrote:
Diogenes wrote: Had this been a Republican (Sarah Palin) the headlines on every newspaper in the country would have been "Palin Disbarred! License to practice law Suspended!"
That could only happen in an alternate universe where Palin was actually able to pass the Bar exam. In our world, she spent 6 years in various universities and colleges to come out with an undergrad degree in journalism.


She lives in a world where people who are born without silver spoons in their mouth have to pay their own way. People who have mummy and dahddy paying their bills wouldn't understand why this makes her a better person than are they.

Judging by her effectiveness, the bar exam passers are scared sh*tless of her.

bcglorf wrote: The existence of Fox News ruins most complaints about a lack of headlines negative of the left.

Not even close. The bulk of the news and entertainment industries is so heavily infested with left wing communist nutjobs, that the only way to make it comprehensible to you is to suggest you imagine a world in which ALL of the media is made up of people like Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly, etc. and then have everyone refer to them as the "neutral" "objective" journalists.

Have you seen the movie "Unstoppable"? Very entertaining communist propaganda. In this movie it's mostly obvious. In many others it's better camouflaged.


bcglorf wrote: For pity sake, Fox is actually stirring dissent against Obama by calling Afghanistan 'his war' and trying to make the engagement there a negative attribute to hang around the necks of the Dems! AH!!!!!!

It is the war that he claimed was the ONLY legitimate war. It is the war that he claimed he would prosecute. So yeah, it is reasonable to refer to it as HIS war.

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She lives in a world where people who are born without silver spoons in their mouth have to pay their own way. People who have mummy and dahddy paying their bills wouldn't understand why this makes her a better person than are they.

Then color my underpriveledged. In my circles it's the silver spoon kids that can afford to drag out their undergrad to 6 years, while the truly effective students spend the same time and money getting their masters. That's exactly what Bush did at Yale and Harvard actually.

Judging by her effectiveness, the bar exam passers are scared sh*tless of her.

As should we all. Popularity and competence are entirely different beasts, just because people are scared of what she might do as president doesn't mean she can't stir up enough tea baggers to get her in.

It is the war that he claimed was the ONLY legitimate war. It is the war that he claimed he would prosecute. So yeah, it is reasonable to refer to it as HIS war.

Calling it HIS war isn't the unreasonable part. Heralding that war as BOTH Bush's greatest triumph and Obama's albatross is beyond unreasonable.

imagine a world in which ALL of the media is made up of people like Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly, etc. and then have everyone refer to them as the "neutral" "objective" journalists.

I'm in perfect agreement declaring MSNBC the left equivalent of FOX. CNN even has a left leaning tendency, but it is dominated more by incompentency, laziness and ignorance.

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bcglorf wrote:She lives in a world where people who are born without silver spoons in their mouth have to pay their own way. People who have mummy and dahddy paying their bills wouldn't understand why this makes her a better person than are they.

Then color my underpriveledged. In my circles it's the silver spoon kids that can afford to drag out their undergrad to 6 years, while the truly effective students spend the same time and money getting their masters. That's exactly what Bush did at Yale and Harvard actually.

I would suggest that someone who struggles to pay for 6 years of college is not the same as someone who pisses off 6 years using their parents money. And don't expect me to have anything good to say about Bush.


bcglorf wrote: Judging by her effectiveness, the bar exam passers are scared sh*tless of her.

As should we all. Popularity and competence are entirely different beasts, just because people are scared of what she might do as president doesn't mean she can't stir up enough tea baggers to get her in.

Firstly, the term "Tea Baggers" is a pejorative. It is just like saying "N*gger."

Secondly, she is effective entirely BECAUSE she is competent. She points out the flaws in a bad idea with just a few words. "Death Panels" is STILL damaging obamacare.

bcglorf wrote: It is the war that he claimed was the ONLY legitimate war. It is the war that he claimed he would prosecute. So yeah, it is reasonable to refer to it as HIS war.

Calling it HIS war isn't the unreasonable part. Heralding that war as BOTH Bush's greatest triumph and Obama's albatross is beyond unreasonable.
Not really. Eisenhower had a great plan for invading Cuba and making it a free country. Kennedy not only botched it in the worst possible way (by betraying friends and allies) he nearly got 30 million Americans killed as a result of botching it! (The Cuban Missile crises was a DIRECT result of the botched invasion.)

By the same token, Obama claimed the war in Afghanistan was the only LEGITIMATE war, but the war in Iraq has more or less been successfully concluded, while the "Only LEGITIMATE war" has been flailing under Obama's watch.
It is easy to see how a war which might be lost by a Peacenik should be regarded as an albatross.


bcglorf wrote: imagine a world in which ALL of the media is made up of people like Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly, etc. and then have everyone refer to them as the "neutral" "objective" journalists.

I'm in perfect agreement declaring MSNBC the left equivalent of FOX. CNN even has a left leaning tendency, but it is dominated more by incompentency, laziness and ignorance.

I have pointed to people before that Rupert Murdoch (the owner of Fox) is a Liberal, and doesn't much agree with his own network. He is, however, shrewd enough to realize that there is a HUGE audience for a conservative network because that corner of the market had never been exploited by the original big three media. (turns out to be the BIGGEST part of the market!)

I say the Liberal Media have been steering the country for the last 60 years. It's way past time that their ideology and assumptions go unchallenged.


As Benjamin Franklin said:

"Printers are educated in the Belief, that when Men differ in Opinion,
both sides ought equally to have the Advantage of being heard by the
Public; and that when Truth and Error have fair Play, the former is
always an overmatch for the latter: Hence [printers] cheerfully serve
all contending Writers that pay them well, without regarding on which
side they are of the Question in Dispute."

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I would suggest that someone who struggles to pay for 6 years of college is not the same as someone who pisses off 6 years using their parents money. And don't expect me to have anything good to say about Bush.

Someone that takes 6 years to get their undergrad in my experience either isn't trying or simply isn't that bright. I've not come across many that aren't bright enough either, so my money's on just not trying. And I do have a higher opinion for the person that gets a Masters from Harvard in 6 years, over the one that needed those same 6 years to get a bachelor's out of Idaho. That said, I know plenty of folks with no degree at all I'd take over any PhD. For president though, I'm willing to ask for someone with BOTH common sense and decency, plus enough education to find Yemen on a map before deciding to run.

I've got a lot more bad than good to say about Bush as well. His two biggest decisions though, Iraq and Afghanistan, I'd say he got right, and in a way I'd expect most other candidates would've failed. Removing the Taliban and Saddam were huge, positive decisions, whether or not they were popular or in America's own self interests. The manner of conducting and planning for them is another matter, but I don't think it entirely negates the decision to persue them in the first place, as I'm sure most would not have.

Firstly, the term "Tea Baggers" is a pejorative. It is just like saying "N*gger."

Well, if you ask me anything that lumps one into the voter base of Palin is by definition a pejorative.

Secondly, she is effective entirely BECAUSE she is competent. She points out the flaws in a bad idea with just a few words. "Death Panels" is STILL damaging obamacare.

Pandoring to populist unrest isn't a competency I place a high value on. "Death Panels" was part of the problem, when the solution America needed was a discussion, by adults, about the benefits and costs of publicly funded health insurance. What America got instead was nuts like Palin screaming on about "Death Panels" and how public insurance is going to kill your grandma.

In summary I agree that phrase was one of her defining moments. I disagree strongly with your characterization of it. Even those vehemently opposed to public health insurance should recognize the damage in an insistance on sabotaging any attempts to discuss the issue.

Eisenhower had a great plan for invading Cuba and making it a free country. Kennedy not only botched it in the worst possible way (by betraying friends and allies) he nearly got 30 million Americans killed as a result of botching it!

And the Afghan mission took it's worst hit when Bush pulled troops out to deploy them in Iraq. I don't want to attack or defend Bush on that, but merely point out that the Afghan effort had been dropped well before Obama even announced his candidacy.

I say the Liberal Media have been steering the country for the last 60 years. It's way past time that their ideology and assumptions go unchallenged.

I just wish I could say that Fox was challenging them. A little more time discussing the trickle down benefits of capitalism and a little less time discussing Obama's birth certificate are in order, and Fox isn't delivering. Fox and MSNBC counter one another, rhetoric for rhetoric. I don't see the polarizing effects of the two being a positive, what's really needed is a sane middle ground, and CNN is too busy making pretty holograms and studying Michael Jackson's funeral arrangements to provide it. Is that us marginally agreeing?

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