I've already explained why that is unnecessary, Skippy. I think you need to be more careful with your meds. You're no longer sounding in any way rational.
Going back to the ad hominem attacks again in the light of evidence against your religious believes, eh?
It is typical for you and your kind! Total lack of critical thinking. Total lack of oberservation. Total lack of reading comprehension.
Skipjack wrote:At about 1.36 into the first video, you can see two birds coming into the frame. Compare their speed to the speed of the UFO. IMHO they dont appear to be THAT much slower.
They know the object was far enough away to appear in the vid when the focus was set at infinity, and they know that when objects moving quickly at this distance make 180* turns in the air, they generate huge gee forces.
You're forming argument after argument based upon no data, when the experts have clearly said this is not birds or insects. As noted, you sound like an ass.
"Courage is not just a virtue, but the form of every virtue at the testing point." C. S. Lewis
It's a frikin' swarm of OUT OF FOCUS shiny bluebottles, or some such insects. It's bloomin' obvious is if you watch the 1:17-1:21 clip over a few times.
Another example of the warning 'engage brain before attempting to communicate'.
chris, didn't you promise to leave and never come back? This is now two posts in a row where you insulted everyone in the forum. Are you asking we go out of our way to explain just how much we don't miss you and hope you go away soon?
"Courage is not just a virtue, but the form of every virtue at the testing point." C. S. Lewis
It's very easy to ask questions we don't have the answers to with these vids. That doesn't mean those who took them and analyzed them don't have those answers. The very fact you think the guy who originally photographed this is wrong and you are right, the reporter is wrong and you are right, the "expert" they got the analysis from is wrong and you are right, and even when they close the piece with noting plenty of people have said its birds or bugs and they're wrong. . .and still you think you're right.
Even when you don't have any of the details to make such a finding, and those who you are saying are wrong do have those details, you stubbornly maintain you have magically discovered something in the vid that literally EVERYONE else has missed. I can assure you, the cameraman knows what the depth of field was and the focal length. He would know if he had been shooting bugs. That's why they're able to say with assurance they were NOT SHOOTING BUGS.
Have some common sense, man. You're making an ass of yourself.
"Courage is not just a virtue, but the form of every virtue at the testing point." C. S. Lewis
The very fact you think the guy who originally photographed this is wrong and you are right, the reporter is wrong and you are right, the "expert" they got the analysis from is wrong and you are right, and even when they close the piece with noting plenty of people have said its birds or bugs and they're wrong. . .and still you think you're right.
They say that they dont know what it is. They think that it is not bugs. They dont know for sure. None of them has said "oh my god it is aliens, or a ME thruster experiment".
Also, none of them is what I would call an expert on anything.
Ok, let me answer the questions for you:
The birds are in focus compared to the "UFO", because they are far enough away from the camera which has its lens set to infinity. The UFO is out of focus because it is much closer.
The very fact you think the guy who originally photographed this is wrong and you are right, the reporter is wrong and you are right, the "expert" they got the analysis from is wrong and you are right, and even when they close the piece with noting plenty of people have said its birds or bugs and they're wrong. . .and still you think you're right.
They say that they don't know what it is. They think that it is not bugs. They don't know for sure. None of them has said "oh my god it is aliens, or a ME thruster experiment".
Also, none of them is what I would call an expert on anything.
Ok, let me answer the questions for you:
The birds are in focus compared to the "UFO", because they are far enough away from the camera which has its lens set to infinity. The UFO is out of focus because it is much closer.
Working with optics being part of my job I feel skipjack is most likely right about this. Also similar mistakes have been made in the past regarding the same problem. http://theparanormalblog.tumblr.com/pos ... n-tape-hey
Well that's interesting but note that in the vid you linked to, the camera is set to focus on a subject just a few feet away, not at infinity as in the news piece, and the bug is flying through the field of focus. In the news vid, the focus length is at or close to infinity, and again, the object is flying through the field of focus.
There is a natural question as to what the depth of field is, or the size of the field of focus in these two events. In the one you linked to, it is bright out, the aperture is likely small which creates a large depth of field, and yet the ocean is not in focus.
In any event, we don't know all the details like depth of field and focal length here, but I will just say that in philosophy, those of us who are taught to argue for a living are taught to treat the positions of others with the "principle of charity" which is to generally give them the benefit of the doubt. You don't for example assume two cameramen, one a professional, a news reporter and an "expert" are all morons and that anyone with a high school education in photography could have figured this out.
This is what both you and Skippy are doing--assuming everyone involved is a moron. If that's what you need to do to maintain your position, then I guess that's what you need to do. I'm going to take their word that it is not a bird or a bug since they were all adamant about the point and it's pretty easy to check.
"Courage is not just a virtue, but the form of every virtue at the testing point." C. S. Lewis
