Re: Go Navy!
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:48 pm
The only problem is that this is a fake'GIThruster wrote:This doesn't need its own thread so I'll stick it here. Y'all know I'm no fan of the F-35, but even I have to admit this is extremely impressive:
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10150113735642761
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/f ... 5Y6PeD5.99The not-quite-real quality of the graphics, the paucity of crewmen on the flight deck, and (especially) the health/ammunition status indicator in the bottom right-hand corner of the screen give this clip away as a sequence from a video game, in this case Battlefield 2. The following clips show similar sequences from that game:
Well, not like this. And I am more refering to dumb mine like weapons.GIThruster wrote:I suppose but compared to an Exocet, most ships have glass jaws. Point is, it operates primarily as a carrier for these other craft that do the confrontation, and if it needs to get involved, it has a gun with range far greater than any shoulder mounted weapon that would otherwise be a threat.
And I could tell you how well they were meeting that shock requirement, but then I'd have to shoot us both.ladajo wrote:Most of the cost run up is not for crew, it is for shock requirements that were not there in the original. It essentially meant a redo of the entire design to meet the Congressionally mandated increased survivability requirements (shock rating). This also added weight, which in Naval Engineering (and many other) terms equals speed and endurance.
I can't speak to or analyze that issue since I'm not familiar with the details of those weapons, except to say minesweeping is one of the packages for these new Corvettes. I think, but am not certain (Iadajo can jump right in) most modern minesweeping is done by helo, so again the ship itself is not at risk. Were we to field another 20 Arleigh Burke's rather than 50 Corvettes, I doubt the Burkes would be able to take direct hits from mines as they'd be just as vulnerable, and they certainly would be in less than half as many places at once, and traveling 20% slower between missions. They'd also be carrying missiles not needed for those missions and not carrying the best mission packages available for those missions.KitemanSA wrote:Well, not like this. And I am more refering to dumb mine like weapons.GIThruster wrote:I suppose but compared to an Exocet, most ships have glass jaws. Point is, it operates primarily as a carrier for these other craft that do the confrontation, and if it needs to get involved, it has a gun with range far greater than any shoulder mounted weapon that would otherwise be a threat.
Of the last 5 US ships damaged dring hostilities, one was damaged by missiles and 4 were damaged by underwater or water surface explosion threat. UNDEX has long been the largest real threat.GIThruster wrote: I can't speak to or analyze that issue since I'm not familiar with the details of those weapons, except to say minesweeping is one of the packages for these new Corvettes. I think, but am not certain (Iadajo can jump right in) most modern minesweeping is done by helo, so again the ship itself is not at risk.
If the mine has a magnetic influence trigger the aluminum hull may be less vulnerable.GIThruster wrote:Are the aluminum hulled ships at significantly greater risk from mines? I thought they were good for anything short of a carrier.
Turns out this is not the case.GIThruster wrote:Yes but given mines are capable of breeching the hull of steel ships as easily as aluminum, ...