Please, Try to Make a Lovely Peaceful World

[Diogenes]

Most Americans at the time thought they should have shot more of them.

And in exchange for the few you shot you moved a LOT of folks to the left. I was in that milieu at the time and watched it go down. Some of them are still stuck on the left.

That was just an excuse. Liberal college profs and media used it as a propaganda tool. Those bastards BURNED DOWN A BUILDING. They didn't care if they had killed someone. No one provoked them, they just decided to commit destruction because of the Liberal crap being fed to them by their communist professors and others socialist tools.

Drug prohibition is currently doing the same. As you know I hang out with the anti-prohibitionists and their left wing/Obama sycophancy is sickening. I'm convinced the right could peel enough of those off so it never need lose another election if it lead the charge to end prohibition.

It might be pragmatic, but it isn't practical or principled. It is akin to eliminating crime by legalizing it faster than criminals can commit it. Eventually the consequences of tolerating it comes back to bite us in the @ss.

It worked for the Democrats in 1932 and we are still suffering from that one. I'd like to see the Right do the same and reverse much of what the left has done. But they don't call the Right the stupid party for nothing.

They are stupid because they keep trying to use a logical knife in an Emotional gunfight.


We've already covered which tactics work better on homo sapiens. It's not their ideas which are wrong, but the fact that they are outgunned on the emotional front by Liberal allies which have seized all means of communication with the people, and infiltrated the education system to keep the population stupid, and the legal system to get through Judicial decree what they could never get by the consent of the governed.

Socialism is a religion of hopelessness. And there is no better way to make people hopeless than running a pogrom on them.

Socialism will eventually make people hopeless. I suppose you could say it is just as good as running a pogrom on them. Unfortunately, they brought it on themselves.

[Aslan]

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Tell me about ISNA news linked by Giorgio.....
Could you read it ??? it is persian!!!!

[ladajo]

And why was tossing Mottaki wrong?

What do you think about how your government has handled the protests against them over the last year?

[ladajo]

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Tell me about ISNA news linked by Giorgio.....
Could you read it ??? it is persian!!!!

Regardless of my ability to read Persian or not, do you know about google translate and other webpage real time translation tools?

[Aslan]

And why was tossing Mottaki wrong?

What do you think about how your government has handled the protests against them over the last year?

Tossing???? What do you mean?

[Aslan]

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Tell me about ISNA news linked by Giorgio.....
Could you read it ??? it is persian!!!!

Regardless of my ability to read Persian or not, do you know about google translate and other webpage real time translation tools?

Yes, I use it frequently.
But, it has very mistakes!!!

[ladajo]

And why was tossing Mottaki wrong?

What do you think about how your government has handled the protests against them over the last year?

Tossing???? What do you mean?

Firing him. As in he was tossed out of the job. Kicked out. Removed.

[ladajo]

Have you read this?

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/16/world ... =obnetwork

What do you think?

Some analysts think that the Revolutionary Guard are turning your country into a military dictatorship, or already have. What do you think?
Are you aware of what they control in your country?

[Aslan]

And why was tossing Mottaki wrong?

What do you think about how your government has handled the protests against them over the last year?

Dr. Salehi is a perfect scientist. Maybe he is not suitable for his new job.
Mr. Mottaki was very good in his job.

[Diogenes]

Why beat them? They are beating themselves. Beating them only energizes them. Didn't you learn anything from Kent State?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRX4R9cYeDQ

Tongue in cheek dude. Obviously I don't want the government beating them, but I wouldn't get too upset if a few volunteers did it. Freedom of speech only protects you from government retaliation, it doesn't keep angry spectators from wompin on your @ss.

[Diogenes]

D,

You are no cold calculator. You are just as emotional as the left. With similar results. Fortunately so far wiser heads are prevailing. But if you have your way we will have hot heads in charge on both sides. Exactly what got us into our first civil war. Why you think another one would be beneficial is beyond me. It took us over 150 years to recover from the first one.

We haven't recovered from that one. It's legacy is still with us.

Leave them alone. They are robbing and raping themselves. Let it continue. Their support will evaporate.

I take it the idea of winning by doing nothing offends your sensibilities.

Sun Tzu:

Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.

http://suntzusaid.com/book/3

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Self discipline (not being ruled by emotions) is the key to economy of force.

Now Simon, you've known me long enough to realize I sometimes say stuff to provoke a reaction. It is one of my dark humor traits. I find it quite entertaining to tweak some opposition noses from time to time. Sending them into a froth is not only fun, but their over-reaction to being spoken to in such a way is engendered to produce exactly the sort of effect of which Sun Tzu would be proud.

[Giorgio]

Again, I always wonder why there are people who feel that another culture should learn faster than their own. It was not so long ago that il Duce was making the trains run on time, and the Cosa Nostra is even today pulling strings. The Financial Morality of Rome is completely undefendable.

As I understand it, Iran is already picking up the habits of the Western World. Drugs and prostitution are supposedly growing exponentially. Can not more indulgence and tolerance be far behind?

You missed my point, I do not want or expect them to learn faster than us, I just expect them not to try to teach us until they made our same experiences.

[Giorgio]

All that needs to be done relative to the Muslim world is wait. They are committing national suicide. Watch Egypt. Within 12 months they will be starving.

And, most probably, also engaged in a civil war.

[Diogenes]

Russia's war in Afghanistan started in 1979. Al Qaeda formeded in 1988-'89. The Taliban formed in 1996.

The US did not arm either Al Qaeda nor the Taliban for its war with Russia because there was no Al Qaeda nor Taliban at the time. Both the question, and all answers to it, are wrong.

A quibble. Lack of an official name did not make the group nonexistent. The US Funded the mujaheddin in Afghanistan, and some of them eventually combined with others to form what later became Al Qaeda. I have little doubt that some of our funding went to what eventually became Al Quaeda. Bin Laden himself fought with the mujaheddin.

Its not a quibble. The Mujaheddin were not a political force, nor political reformers like the Taliban. They did not tear down ancient statues and throw people into Shira bondage like the Taliban. The Mujaheddin were sympathetic with those handing them Stinger missiles to defend their homeland, and they certainly were not attacking non-militant targets nor anyone outside Afghanistan. The fact that some of these freedom fighters went on to attack non-combatants, outside their national boundaries, for religious reasons is entirely the result of Osama Bin Laden's ministrations.

It's anything but a quibble. The US did not put weapons in the hands of terrorists. They put them in the hands of freedom fighters, some of whom more than a decade later became terrorists. We do not however, have any incidents of Taliban nor Al Qaeda using Stinger missiles. The Afghans had apparently used them up before the end of their war with the USSR. This in complete contrast to the US having armed the Libyans and had them walk off with the weapons, and had them show up in weapons bizarres in Africa well before the revolution was over.

They put them in the hands of temporary allies for a common purpose but after which said weapons and assets eventually made their way into the hands of people who became our enemies. The difference between them and the Libyans is that the Libyans just did it faster.

[Aslan]

Have you read this?

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/16/world ... =obnetwork

What do you think?

Some analysts think that the Revolutionary Guard are turning your country into a military dictatorship, or already have. What do you think?
Are you aware of what they control in your country?

This is only a theory. According to this theory, perhaps president should be elected with votes of parliament. Somthing Like America.