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NASA's Developing A Stylish New Spacesuit for Mars

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Whether it’s the silver-clad explorers from the Mercury missions, or the Apollo-era adventurers in their gleaming white and gold suits, astronauts have the greatest tailors this side of Starfleet. But even classics need updating. Amy Ross leads NASA’s efforts in advanced pressure garment technology and is spearheading the first total redesign of astronaut outerwear in nearly 30 years.


Her latest creation, called the Z-2 Spacesuit, is a $4.4 million dollar planetary exploration suit designed for walking the surface of the Moon, Mars, and any other landforms a spacecraft can land on. Like the Extravehicular Mobility Units seen in movies like Gravity, the Z-2 is a pressurized design made from layers of high-tech materials that are inflated until they’re as taut as a basketball, but customized for missions
This part is actually more telling, and very disappointing:

Where are the Sleek, Skintight Suits We’ve Been Promised?

As cool as the Z-2 is, why not shoot for something sleeker and more form-fitting like the mechanical counter pressure (MCP) suits being developed by MIT’s Dava Newman? NASA’s engineers are big fans of the concept, but point out that for these kinds of suits to work, breakthroughs in material science will be required, as well as careful tailoring. Current concepts leave the crotch and armpits dangerously unsupported and pressurizing a standalone helmet creates tricky design challenges. This isn’t to say it’s not possible, but is likely decades from feasibility.




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BioSuit: The Future of Space Gear Is Being Built Out of MIT

New materials and designs could allow outer-space travelers to move more freely.


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One day, moving around in outer space—and walking on Mars—could become a whole lot more comfortable for astronauts, thanks to the innovative techniques being developed by an aeronautics professor at MIT.

“The BioSuit—the one that gets a lot of media coverage—is a concept no one has seen before, and we have been working on it for a long time,” said Dava Newman, professor of Aeronautics and Astronautics and Engineering Systems at MIT. “We are doing great research. If we were fully funded, we could have it working in two years, no problem.”


Newman has been working on various types of wearable outer-space gear with MIT students and designers from around the world for more than a decade, focusing specifically on three forms of aeronautics spacesuits: The BioSuit, an exercise suit, and a layer of material that can be worn inside of the typical bulky space gear that NASA astronauts have grown accustomed to during space missions.

Newman made waves at a recent TED talk in San Francisco last week, TED Women, where she showed off examples of the work she has been doing for the last 12 years.

According to Newman, the BioSuit, which captured the audience’s attention, is an example of “new wearable technologies” being developed at MIT’s Extra-Vehicular Activity Lab (EVA). The suit system could one day provide life support for astronauts in an atmosphere like the one on Mars by relying on the “mechanical counter-pressure” built into the suit, where pressure is applied to the entire body through a tight-fitting material. The suit is also equipped with a helmet to cover an explorer’s head.

“You have to apply a third of an atmosphere to keep someone alive in the vacuum of space. With polymers or stretchy elastic, you can get about 20 percent there, but we have to get to 30 percent to make it work. So now, using our active material, we have nailed the extra 10 percent so we can fully pressurize the suit,” said Newman. “When we go to another planet, we could definitely have a useable flight system going.”

Newman said the greatest problem with the standard suits that have allowed astronauts to survive in outer space for so many missions is their rigidity, which reduces their mobility both inside a spacecraft, and when performing repair work in space.

She said the air needed to supply the necessary pressure to the astronauts essentially turns them into “stiff balloons” that make movement difficult and tiring.

Her form-fitting BioSuit could one day allow space explorers to move “freely” and with more agility when performing their work. “Work in active materials is one of our big focuses,” said Newman.

The suit would also potentially be safer than a traditional suit. Newman said an abrasion or puncture in a bulky space suit would cause a major emergency, but a small breach in the BioSuit could be easily repaired.
This part is very telling, sounds like the big money contractors for the traditional "balloon suits" are making sure she is starved for funding:

While the idea is stellar, the money to launch the suit forward has caused the project to slow down a little. For years Newman said she was receiving funding from NASA, from 2000 through 2005. “Without funding, we are sort of working on this one student at a time,” she said, referencing the help she receives from those enrolled at MIT. “We have a pretty extensive plan to get to a flight system for the BioSuit, and if that were in place and funded, in two years of full-on work, we could be ready.”


Look like once again we will have to wait for Bigelow and Elon Musk to get behind it for use in maybe space tourism


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I'm still curious how the suit transitions from applied physical pressure to air pressure on the head from the helmet. There must be a seal around the neck somewhere and that seems to me problematic. Still, a great idea. With the new elastomers this can only get better over time. One of the biggest troubles with space suits is what it takes to get into and out of them. Her original designs were to wrap endlessly which would have been a problem. I see from the form fitting jumpsuit that she's got past that now. Anything designer, but that one can get into in just a few minutes would be a real breakthrough, especially once you add the extended flexibility and comfort.
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Any progress on the critical issues with mechanical counter-pressure suites, the need for an exacting fit and the resulting difficulty getting one on and off?
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There are also lots of problems with unevenly applied pressure and seams, etc. Also there are some parts of the body that do not like mechanical pressure (imagine a male in that counterpressure suit, is all I will say).

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I understand they make foam fitted prosthetic for male problems
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hanelyp wrote:Any progress on the critical issues with mechanical counter-pressure suites, the need for an exacting fit and the resulting difficulty getting one on and off?
From my link: “You have to apply a third of an atmosphere to keep someone alive in the vacuum of space. With polymers or stretchy elastic, you can get about 20 percent there, but we have to get to 30 percent to make it work. So now, using our active material, we have nailed the extra 10 percent so we can fully pressurize the suit,” said Newman. “When we go to another planet, we could definitely have a useable flight system going.”

So I would say yes she has solved that problem.



Skipjack wrote:There are also lots of problems with unevenly applied pressure and seams, etc. Also there are some parts of the body that do not like mechanical pressure (imagine a male in that counterpressure suit, is all I will say).
A "cod piece" made of some kind of exactly tailored foam rubber flexible plastic type material custom designed to fit in your sensitive areas, groin, arm pits, etc, could be put on before putting on the mechanical counter pressure suit; it seems to me something like that should work. Since NASA cut her off in 2005, seems to me that money is her biggest issue, she is effectively continuing her research on a wing and a prayer.

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GIThruster wrote:One of the biggest troubles with space suits is what it takes to get into and out of them. Her original designs were to wrap endlessly which would have been a problem. I see from the form fitting jumpsuit that she's got past that now. Anything designer, but that one can get into in just a few minutes would be a real breakthrough, especially once you add the extended flexibility and comfort.
In exchange for something that even with lots of bells and whistles would end up costing 10's of thousands of dollars as opposed to 4.5 million dollars longer getting into/out of would be well worth it. As I recall in Pournelle's stories featuring said suits, it was a common practice for "spacers" to wear them all the time, sans helmet, just so if needed they could rapidly "suit up" if an emergency happened. They usually for modesty's sake wore coveralls or something over them when wearing them off duty

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The idea being a looser fitting suit that get smaller when voltage is applied becoming form fitting.
For safety reasons, it would be better if the suit material contracted when power was removed ("fail-safe").

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DeltaV wrote:For safety reasons, it would be better if the suit material contracted when power was removed ("fail-safe").
My thought too. Dielectric Elastomers or contract in the direction of the field when applied, so it does seem possible to make a suit with just two electrodes that is a single skin, electrodes interior and exterior, that when powered up expands. Not sure why she didn't take this approach but it was what I first thought she had done when I looked at the original NIAC grant.
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This is about a year older than the lead post on this topic:

Dava Newman: A better built space suit


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfsmEYPSTtk

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Great stuff! I'm very impressed with how involved her work is with applications here on Earth. Very exciting!
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Shrink-wrapping spacesuits
The MIT BioSuit, a skintight spacesuit that offers improved mobility and reduced mass compared to modern gas-pressurized spacesuits.
Spacesuits of the future may resemble a streamlined second skin.




ImageThe MIT BioSuit, a skintight spacesuit that offers improved mobility and reduced mass compared to modern gas-pressurized spacesuits.


For future astronauts, the process of suiting up may go something like this: Instead of climbing into a conventional, bulky, gas-pressurized suit, an astronaut may don a lightweight, stretchy garment, lined with tiny, musclelike coils. She would then plug in to a spacecraft’s power supply, triggering the coils to contract and essentially shrink-wrap the garment around her body.

The skintight, pressurized suit would not only support the astronaut, but would give her much more freedom to move during planetary exploration. To take the suit off, she would only have to apply modest force, returning the suit to its looser form.

Now MIT researchers are one step closer to engineering such an active, “second-skin” spacesuit: Dava Newman, a professor of aeronautics and astronautics and engineering systems at MIT, and her colleagues have engineered active compression garments that incorporate small, springlike coils that contract in response to heat. The coils are made from a shape-memory alloy (SMA) — a type of material that “remembers” an engineered shape and, when bent or deformed, can spring back to this shape when heated.

The team incorporated the coils in a tourniquet-like cuff, and applied a current to generate heat. At a certain trigger temperature, the coils contract to their “remembered” form, such as a fully coiled spring, tightening the cuff in the process. In subsequent tests, the group found that the pressure produced by the coils equaled that required to fully support an astronaut in space.

“With conventional spacesuits, you’re essentially in a balloon of gas that’s providing you with the necessary one-third of an atmosphere [of pressure,] to keep you alive in the vacuum of space,” says Newman, who has worked for the past decade to design a form-fitting, flexible spacesuit of the future. “We want to achieve that same pressurization, but through mechanical counterpressure — applying the pressure directly to the skin, thus avoiding the gas pressure altogether. We combine passive elastics with active materials. … Ultimately, the big advantage is mobility, and a very lightweight suit for planetary exploration.”

The coil design was conceived by Bradley Holschuh, a postdoc in Newman’s lab. Holschuh and Newman, along with graduate student Edward Obropta, detail the design in the journal IEEE/ASME: Transactions on Mechatronics.

How to train a spacesuit

While skintight spacesuits have been proposed in the past, there’s been one persistent design hurdle: how to squeeze in and out of a pressurized suit that’s engineered to be extremely tight. That’s where shape-memory alloys may provide a solution. Such materials only contract when heated, and can easily be stretched back to a looser shape when cool.

To find an active material that would be most suitable for use in space, Holschuh considered 14 types of shape-changing materials — ranging from dielectric elastomers to shape-memory polymers — before settling on nickel-titanium shape-memory alloys. When trained as tightly packed, small-diameter springs, this material contracts when heated to produce a significant amount of force, given its slight mass — ideal for use in a lightweight compression garment.

The material is commonly produced in reels of very thin, straight fiber. To transform the fiber into coils, Holschuh borrowed a technique from another MIT group that previously used coiled nickel-titanium to engineer a heat-activated robotic worm.

Shape-memory alloys like nickel-titanium can essentially be “trained” to return to an original shape in response to a certain temperature. To train the material, Holschuh first wound raw SMA fiber into extremely tight, millimeter-diameter coils then heated the coils to 450 degrees Celsius to set them into an original, or “trained” shape. At room temperature, the coils may be stretched or bent, much like a paper clip. However, at a certain “trigger” temperature (in this case, as low as 60 C), the fiber will begin to spring back to its trained, tightly coiled state.

The researchers rigged an array of coils to an elastic cuff, attaching each coil to a small thread linked to the cuff. They then attached leads to the coils’ opposite ends and applied a voltage, generating heat. Between 60 and 160 C, the coils contracted, pulling the attached threads, and tightening the cuff.

“These are basically self-closing buckles,” Holschuh says. “Once you put the suit on, you can run a current through all these little features, and the suit will shrink-wrap you, and pull closed.”

Keeping it tight

The group’s next challenge is finding a way to keep the suit tight. To do this, Holschuh says there are only two options: either maintaining a constant, toasty temperature, or incorporating a locking mechanism to keep the coils from loosening. The first option would overheat an astronaut and require heavy battery packs — a design that would significantly impede mobility, and is likely infeasible given the limited power resources available to astronauts in space. Holschuh and Newman are currently exploring the second option, looking into potential mechanisms to lock or clip the coils in place.

As for where the coils may be threaded within a spacesuit, Holschuh is contemplating several designs. For instance, an array of coils may be incorporated into the center of a suit, with each coil attached to a thread that radiates to the suit’s extremities. As the coils activate, they could pull on the attached threads — much like the strings of a puppet — to tighten and pressurize the suit. Or, smaller arrays of coils could be placed in strategic locations within a spacesuit to produce localized tension and pressure, depending on where they are needed to maintain full body compression.

While the researchers are concentrating mostly on applications in space, Holschuh says the group’s designs and active materials may be used for other purposes, such as in athletic wear or military uniforms.

“You could use this as a tourniquet system if someone is bleeding out on the battlefield,” Holschuh says. “If your suit happens to have sensors, it could tourniquet you in the event of injury without you even having to think about it.”

“An integrated suit is exciting to think about to enhance human performance,” Newman adds. “We’re trying to keep our astronauts alive, safe, and mobile, but these designs are not just for use in space.”

This research was funded by NASA and the MIT Portugal Program.




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GIThruster wrote:I'm still curious how the suit transitions from applied physical pressure to air pressure on the head from the helmet.
I don't see the skin can know the pressure is mechanical or pneumatic. The interior of the suit would just depart the skin.
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