Please, Try to Make a Lovely Peaceful World

ladajo · Post by **ladajo** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:21 pm

Well that made no sense.

You continue to insist that your governement and military is not seeking nuclear weapons.

(Again) Read this and feel free to comment: http://isis-online.org/uploads/isis-rep ... ov2011.pdf

You are sounding more like Imadinnerjacket with every post. Please back up your claims. Please do not post like a petulant child trying to get others to listen.

Some of the things you have posted are pure fantasy.

You need to understand that the media is not tied to government in free countries. They get to report what they want and how they want, and are protected to do so by law.

You need to understand that internet conspiracy theories are just that, silly theories with no real basis but hype and illusion by folks (mostly off balance) with and agenda to pursue.

You need to understand that the rest of the world has not an issue with the people of Iran, just the rantings and actions of the leadership.

You need to understand, that unless your leadership recognizes the futility of the chosen path, that your country will be ruined for it, and probably by war. The best way (in a free society) for the leadership to get this point is to listen to its people. I do not believe that your government listens to its people at all.

Your whole argument is on the basis that everyone else must be wrong. Not a healthy point of view.

Aslan · Post by **Aslan** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:22 pm

Skipjack wrote:
Prejudice is for people who are retarded.
Well quoting something that your president actually said, is not prejudice...
The problem is that when someone talks like that in the context of nuclear weapons, he makes people nervous. You dont want to make the wrong people nervous...

I wished the freedom movement in your country had been blessed with more success.
What is your opinion about those peacefully demonstrating opposition people that were gunned down by government thugs in the streets?

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/209087.html

Skipjack · Post by **Skipjack** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:24 pm

And what about those peacefully demonstrating opposition people that are guned down now by US government thugs in the streets???

Hu?! What?!
Dude, there is nothing like that happening. You are fantasizing!

Aslan · Post by **Aslan** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:25 pm

ladajo wrote:Well that made no sense.

You continue to insist that your governement and military is not seeking nuclear weapons.

(Again) Read this and feel free to comment: http://isis-online.org/uploads/isis-rep ... ov2011.pdf

You are sounding more like Imadinnerjacket with every post. Please back up your claims. Please do not post like a petulant child trying to get others to listen.

Some of the things you have posted are pure fantasy.

You need to understand that the media is not tied to government in free countries. They get to report what they want and how they want, and are protected to do so by law.

You need to understand that internet conspiracy theories are just that, silly theories with no real basis but hype and illusion by folks (mostly off balance) with and agenda to pursue.

You need to understand that the rest of the world has not an issue with the people of Iran, just the rantings and actions of the leadership.

You need to understand, that unless your leadership recognizes the futility of the chosen path, that your country will be ruined for it, and probably by war. The best way (in a free society) for the leadership to get this point is to listen to its people. I do not believe that your government listens to its people at all.

Your whole argument is on the basis that everyone else must be wrong. Not a healthy point of view.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/208931.html

GIThruster · Post by **GIThruster** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:28 pm

Skipjack wrote:The Iranians are in trouble, not because they are developing nuclear bombs, but because of their leadership consisting of madmen.

Absolutely. I hope I'm not being taken as anti-Iranian in any way. If I had my way, we Americans would enjoy friendly relations with all Iranians. The trouble really is the "Arabization" of Persia. Had not this insane hatred of all things Jewish infected so many Islamic nations, we would not have this tension. I hate to say it, because I am in some ways a religious person and I have deep sympathies with religions of all sorts, but it is the hatred toward the Jews found in Islam that is at the base of all this tension. The hatred comes from the Arab reinterpretation of the ancient Jewish scriptures and repudiation of them. Were Persia cleansed of this perverse hatred, there would be no Ahmadinejad's nor men like him.

Skipjack · Post by **Skipjack** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:33 pm

Oh and Aslan, you should, you really should consult multiple news sources, not just one. Ever considered the possibility that the Iranian TV is feeding you BS?

ladajo · Post by **ladajo** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:34 pm

And where in your article does it say ANYTHING about US police gunning down protestors?
The nearest it gets is the incredibly funny;

huge massing of police and the police in most American cities now look more like military than police --you'll see Uzi's and heavy-duty rioting gear and such; they're pretty frightening to look at. And then, a huge massing of them, of these aluminum barriers, the orange police netting, and such that are ready to be deployed

That last time I saw a cop with a machine gun was on a TV show. Cops responding to crowd control do not do so with automatic weapons.

I have yet to ever see a cop in the US with and "uzi". That is classic...
ROFTL

But I guess it is beliavable to you as it is what you live with in Iran. "Cops" and "undercover cops" that run around with guns and shoot folks that make them angry. We have seen many videos posted showing Iranian "Police" killing or using deadly force as they wish during recent protests. One of the most popular was a girl merely walking along that got the crap beaten out of her by "undercover" police with sticks. All shown on cell phone video shot from a window above.

Aslan · Post by **Aslan** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:35 pm

Please visit these links carefully. it can help you so much.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/209087.html

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/208931.html

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/209009.html

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/209020.html

Aslan · Post by **Aslan** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:44 pm

Skipjack wrote:Oh and Aslan, you should, you really should consult multiple news sources, not just one. Ever considered the possibility that the Iranian TV is feeding you BS?

GIThruster and Skipjack,,,

We like Jews and Americans and we respect them specially.
You should accept that our media act very weak. I use ours and yours every time. But I'm sure that you never use both.

Skipjack · Post by **Skipjack** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:44 pm

Again, Aslan, dont trust the Iranian TV. They are feeding you disinformation!

Skipjack · Post by **Skipjack** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:46 pm

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... illed&aq=f

GIThruster · Post by **GIThruster** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:46 pm

Aslan wrote:Please visit these links carefully. it can help you so much.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/209087.html

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/208931.html

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/209009.html

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/209020.html

It's truly sad that this is what the Iranian people are being told. All lies, Aslan.

It is true, we have had many uprisings amongst those who often have legitimate complaints, and our system of democracy allows for this. Despite the Wall Street protests have been at times uncivilized and out of control, there have been no deaths. No shootings. No oppression. In fact, we have thousands of people camping out in public places where this is illegal and the authorities have done almost nothing in response.

You are being lied to by your government controlled press. None of what you have posted is true.

Aslan · Post by **Aslan** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:47 pm

Skipjack wrote:Again, Aslan, dont trust the Iranian TV. They are feeding you disinformation!

Please do not judge one way.

Skipjack · Post by **Skipjack** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:49 pm

Please do not judge one way.

I dont even trust my own Austrian government run TV, if it is a comfort for you (run by ultra leftist morons).

ladajo · Post by **ladajo** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:53 pm

Aslan,
All I can say is "quality of information". I have read the links you posted, and have felt very sorry for you. What you perceive as "news" is exactly not.
I would strongly reccomend that what you read on "presstv.ir" be taken as suspect and not main stream.

All major news outlets have some sort of bias, however, a good generic mix is Sky, Euronews, BBC, CNN, MSNBC & Fox. As long as you understand the positional bias they have, you can read what they post and compare to gain a better balanced understanding.
Do you have access to all of these? Some even come in Persian versions so you can compare the language translations to see if you understood the nuances correctly.