Iran's stealth fighter

choff · Post by **choff** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:59 pm

With a Kamikaze plane children make good enough pilots, if you don't have radar, landing gear, ejection seat, parachute, enviromental controls, weapons systems, jet engines you have no metal to reflect radar. You can bolt the canopy on after the pilot gets in, and once the takeoff gear fall away he has no choice about least painful death. You don't have to worry too much about flight control either, it's all hit or miss.

That said it's 90% likely a fake.

GIThruster · Post by **GIThruster** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:56 pm

The oddest thing to me is why if they're going to promote a con, they don't pretend they have a UCAV. I mean really, isn't it a little late in the game to be building new fighters?

choff · Post by **choff** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:22 am

It wouldn't be the first propellerless fighter built out of plywood.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_162

Stubby · Post by **Stubby** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:56 pm

Yes the Germans learned the value of plywood from the British and their Mosquito medium bomber.

Although I wonder at the placement of the He162's engine intake right above and behind the cockpit.

MSimon · Post by **MSimon** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:34 pm

ladajo wrote:I have seen better cockpits in cessnas.

[img> http://i.imgur.com/W9kBaPh.jpg </img]

Look like it is made of fiber glass.

No sealing & latching for canopy.

No combat equipment. No radar.

No reality.

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What is the orange and black dingus located where the pilot's crotch would be? Looks like this craft has an inflight sex toy.

ladajo · Post by **ladajo** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:00 pm

Stubby wrote:Yes the Germans learned the value of plywood from the British and their Mosquito medium bomber.

Although I wonder at the placement of the He162's engine intake right above and behind the cockpit.

The Horten Brothers did a good bit of work with plywood. They did so for stealth. The Germans well understood Radar.

ladajo · Post by **ladajo** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:02 pm

MSimon wrote:
ladajo wrote:I have seen better cockpits in cessnas.

[img> http://i.imgur.com/W9kBaPh.jpg </img]

Look like it is made of fiber glass.

No sealing & latching for canopy.

No combat equipment. No radar.

No reality.

<This is the editor speaking - you know how I hate page bleeds. Why not host it at photobucket or flikr and reduce the size? - Simon>
What is the orange and black dingus located where the pilot's crotch would be? Looks like this craft has an inflight sex toy.

It appears to be a dual role ejection seat actuator/self-pleasure device.

KitemanSA · Post by **KitemanSA** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:05 pm

ladajo wrote:It appears to be a dual role ejection seat actuator/self-pleasure device.

You know this how? Personal experience is it?

ladajo · Post by **ladajo** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:11 pm

Last seat I was in was for flying an F-35 simulator. It did not have the dual purpose grab ring. It was only for going out for coffee.

Similar setup for the F-22 sim I was in before that...coffee only.

I guess our design theory is that we prefer our guys to take things into their own hands.

ScottL · Post by **ScottL** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:47 pm

Stubby wrote:Yes the Germans learned the value of plywood from the British and their Mosquito medium bomber.

Although I wonder at the placement of the He162's engine intake right above and behind the cockpit.

I would assume having the intake on top next to the cockpit would cause choke during climb and manueverability, severly limiting the craft to maybe 400-500mph?

paperburn1 · Post by **paperburn1** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:58 pm

ladajo wrote:Last seat I was in was for flying an F-35 simulator. It did not have the dual purpose grab ring. It was only for going out for coffee.

Similar setup for the F-22 sim I was in before that...coffee only.

I guess our design theory is that we prefer our guys to take things into their own hands.

It looks like a bastardized version of a martin baker seat. Maybe something used in a old A harrier or GR but it looks to small. and the O2 bottle should be in the seat pan. not like an F 5 maybe its a Chinese knockoff that would explain a lot.

paperburn1 · Post by **paperburn1** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:26 pm

ScottL wrote:
Stubby wrote:Yes the Germans learned the value of plywood from the British and their Mosquito medium bomber.

Although I wonder at the placement of the He162's engine intake right above and behind the cockpit.
I would assume having the intake on top next to the cockpit would cause choke during climb and manueverability, severly limiting the craft to maybe 400-500mph?

Thats ok with this aircraft, the standby airspeed indicator looks to have a top end of 300 knots the picture in the links is hi res so you can blow up everything by using the enlarge functions in chrome or explorer.

choff · Post by **choff** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:38 pm

If it's a rocket plane the intakes could be to cool the engines and help burn fuel after it leaves the nozzle. Another use would be venting through wingtips for manuever. Rocket engines would have a lower radar signature than Jet engines.

It's not meant to dogfight, it's meant to fly level into a supertanker, destroyer, or go bowling on a flightdeck in the Straight of Hormuz. They could put plastic explosive in the nose where radar would go on any other airplane.

Low radar signature, 20 minutes max. flight through a busy shipping lane at just under 600mph, small target for interceptors to get a visual on. Easy to determine position from the coastline on a clear day.

Why bother with unmanned remote control electronics when 12 year old fanatics are the cheaper, more expendible resource in a polygamist society. They have a much lower radar signature.