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[GIThruster]

Simon, the man was shot at point blank range, turned and ran, stopped, turned and may or may not have charged the cop with the gun.

He was stoned.

This does not take a sociological explanation. He is dead because he was not thinking straight, regardless of whether this is a righteous shooting or not.

[MSimon]

Simon, the man was shot at point blank range, turned and ran, stopped, turned and may or may not have charged the cop with the gun.

He was stoned.

This does not take a sociological explanation. He is dead because he was not thinking straight, regardless of whether this is a righteous shooting or not.

Of course. He was a thug. I don't deny it. I celebrate it. He got what he deserved. And it looks like he was in a gang. Crip. Blood. whatever. I can't keep them all straight.

But the elephant in the outhouse is:

Prohibition creates job openings for thugs.

You might remember alcohol prohibition doing the same.

It isn't the drug (alcohol, pot, whatever). It is the prohibition.

As I have said numerous times - the right's affinity for socialism for criminals is truly a wonder to behold.

[MSimon]

BTW if you are concerned with straight thinking - something needs to be done about alcohol. More than a few people get stupid on that drug - regularly.

If prohibition is the answer to drug stupidity (it didn't seem to stop Mr. Brown) then alcohol definitely needs re-prohibiting.

[MSimon]

Look at our problem with thugs in the ME. Half their funding comes from heroin prohibition.

Of course the other half comes from people who think having thugs promoting THEIR religion is a good thing.

That may be changing. A former Saudi Admiral speaks: http://classicalvalues.com/2014/08/who- ... countries/

[ScottL]

6 shots hit. 2 to his head.

I don't think he's charging anything at that point.

[palladin9479]

The resentment the Drug War causes in the Black community explains a LOT of the hostility in the Black Community towards police. Blacks and whites use and deal drugs about equally. Blacks are arrested more frequently (on a per capita basis) and given far harsher punishment for equal crimes.

Yes Mr. Brown was a thug. Prohibition creates thugs. Thuggery is a viable career option during Prohibitions. There is a demand.

But the disproportionate policing of Blacks during this prohibition makes about as much sense as the disproportionate policing of Italians during the last one. Well I suppose Italians are inherently thuggish.

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Well that explains the protesting. Fortunately we are ending Prohibition and in 20 or 30 years this resents will die away.

When police are seen as an occupying army this is the kind of culture you get. It was no different in South Africa when apartheid was ending.

Ah. But the lessons of history? No one wants to learn from them. It is inconvenient. It ruins the narrative.

Whites and blacks do not deal equally, the predominate dealer is black. The driving factor behind more blacks being in jail is not profiling but rather inner city poverty. Poor blacks tend to congregate inside cities which creates an environment that enables drug trafficking and dealing, it also makes it much easier for police to monitor and persecute the WoD. Poor whites tend to live in rural area's far away from the city which tends to enable drug production and makes it much harder due to the lower number of county police / sheriffs per square meter vs metropolitan police. It's a case of there being fewer poor whites involved in the drug industry and those that are involved tend to be spread out over a large geographic area with fewer law enforcement officials, while you have more poor blacks involved who are concentrated in a smaller geographic area with more law enforcement officials. In order for there to be less blacks arrested the city police would have to start ignoring drug crime entirely. In order for there to be more whites arrested they would have to significantly beef up county and state police and spend a ton of money. Basically you don't grow lots of cannabis or brew lots of meth in the city, too easy for someone to notice or tip off the police and too many police to randomly stumble across your operation. You don't deal lots of weed or meth / crack / ect.. in the country as there it's not profitable vs dealing in a highly concentrated population center.

It's all economics.

[MSimon]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/20 ... -the-poor/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/keith-rus ... 83310.html

Mauer and Cole attempt to dispel the myth that there is a disproportionate number of Black people in prison because Black people commit more crimes.

They point out that although Whites and African Americans use and sell drugs at about the same rates, Black men in 2003 were almost 12 times as likely to go to prison as White men. Although Black people are 12 percent of the population and 14 percent of drug users, according to Mauer and Cole, they comprise 34 percent of those arrested for drug offenses and 45 percent of those incarcerated in state prisons for such offenses.

Both men attribute disparities in incarceration rates in part to the way urban Black communities are policed.

"Police find drugs where they look for them," they wrote. "Inner-city, open-air drug markets are easier to bust than those that operate out of suburban basements. And numerous studies show that minorities are stopped by police more often than Whites."

http://www.sentencingproject.org/doc/pu ... review.pdf

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/won ... ne-charts/

http://www.hrw.org/news/2009/06/19/race ... ted-states

From what I have read, your point about policing Blacks being easier is true. None the less it creates resentment. And that boils over from time to time. This is one of those times. Prohibition can't end soon enough.

[GIThruster]

From what I have read, your point about policing Blacks being easier is true. None the less it creates resentment.

Criminals always resent being monitored in any way, even by other criminals. This observation is mere tautology. You're not saying anything.

[GIThruster]

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/169302- ... s-account/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08 ... ch-on-air/

[MSimon]

From what I have read, your point about policing Blacks being easier is true. None the less it creates resentment.

Criminals always resent being monitored in any way, even by other criminals. This observation is mere tautology. You're not saying anything.

Three felonies a day.

[MSimon]

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