How close do you think we are from a third world war?

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palladin9479
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Re: How close do you think we are from a third world war?

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Holy ... sh!t, is skippy really arguing with that much ignorance of military weapon systems?

Dude not all armor are tanks, tanks are a very specific type of armor designed to dominate land warfare with high caliber weapons systems that can be direct fired on the run. Tracks and metal don't a tank make. A Paladin has tracks, armor and a really big gun but is most certainly not a tank. A Bradly also has tracks, armor and a much smaller gun, but again isn't a tank. The Hercules has tracks armor and mounts a machine gun, yet again isn't a tank. The Wolverine has tracks, armor but no weapons. Then you have something like the Stryker which doesn't have tracks but has armor, a cannon and carries troops. The Humvee doesn't have tracks but can be armored and mounted with an automatic grenade launcher, talk about scaring the piss out of an entire enemy company.

Furthermore,
Back to oil. You implied the U.S. gets a majority of its oil from the Middle East. I have shown you clearly this is not the case. It is not even close. What we do buy, we do not need. Unbeknowst to you, it has been U.S. policy since the late 70s to buy enough to maintain some influence, but not enough to have any measure of real strategic impact if sourcing stops (either by decision on the U.S. end or circumstance on the ME end). Again, you are out of your depth.
The US is now Oil and Gas independent. We are actually an oil / gas exporting nation but due to laws we can only export refined fuels like gasoline / diesel and not crude oil. Also we sell it on the international market so our oil / gas is competing with other exporting nations for world demand which includes our own. This is how people can get all sorts of screwy numbers based entirely on how the person running the number chose to count things. We produce more Oil / Gas then we use but because we're selling it on the open market it's entirely possible for us a US company to purchase gas from a foreign nation while another foreign nation buys our own.

Skipjack
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Re: How close do you think we are from a third world war?

Post by Skipjack »

ladajo wrote:Skippy,
Yes, you got it.
Tank means non-infantry carrying tracked armored vehicle with a turret mounted gun.
Armor (in English) means exactly (as I said above) the same thing that Panzer means in German.
It even has the same etomology.
Armor can mean any type of armored vehicle. Just like "aircraft" means any thing that flys.
Tank does not mean any type of armored vehicle.

Panzer = Armor. Just like I said above.
The videos you linked did not have any Tanks, it had Armored vehicles, or to be broader, Armor. However, most english speaking military would expect that if you said there was a rail movement of Armor, that it included Tanks. That is why it would normally be nuanced with the word vehicles, as that clues everyone in that their are not Tanks in the Armor.
Well, the online dictionary translates "tank" in the military context as "Panzer" and that is pretty much what you learn and read here anywhere, hence the confusion.
The language issues aside, these are clearly armored military vehicles on their way east. I hear that they are meant for a joint exercise in Hungary, which just happens to border Ukraine. Sabre rattling on both sides, I presume. The Russians have their "exercises" at the Ukrainian border and we have ours.

Oh and I get it Paladin. I will make sure to correct every single foreign language error you ever make in the future, alright?

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Re: How close do you think we are from a third world war?

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"U.S. attorney general says banks may face criminal cases soon" Of course this is just t put pressure on the banks Obama wants to toe the line, like he wants Putin to toe the progressive socialist line. Just a round about way to do it, so many laws, so many ways to apply pressure, and having the NSA to know where to apply the pressure.

That is a nice thing about having so many laws on the books and being able to go after who you want... Don't worry though, these guys only go after who they want and they are always bad guys. Anybody else uncomfortable with the behemoth State created by progressives for the "good" of whatever the latest cause is? I mean, those laws were for a good cause...

The US has all the hooks for a totalitarian state and they are learning the ropes on how to use those hooks. Wake up, you know who I am talking to.
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Re: How close do you think we are from a third world war?

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The road to hell is paved with good intentions
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Skipjack
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Re: How close do you think we are from a third world war?

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mvanwink5 wrote:"U.S. attorney general says banks may face criminal cases soon"
Definitely going to have war now. They wont let him get away with that. Otherwise, I would say "good!". I don't like banks.

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Re: How close do you think we are from a third world war?

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Skipjack,
They won't do it, it is just to put pressure on them to freeze Putin associate bank accounts.
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Re: How close do you think we are from a third world war?

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http://reut.rs/1g2Q8Ly

he is backing down before the words are out of his mouth. they are obviously looking to make some people tow the line.
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Re: How close do you think we are from a third world war?

Post by Skipjack »

Since corporations (and I assume banks as well) are now "people", how do you jail a bank? ;)
Also, I guess that Obama is now going after them, since he is nearing the end of his term and does not really care about the consequences anymore. Good!

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