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DU Talks Polywell

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:23 am
by MSimon
With a link back to Talk-Polywell.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12287022

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:53 pm
by ladajo
Sublinks from there yields that we are "InfoSharks". I feel some meaure of pride...and concern...but mostly a measure of pride...I think...

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:44 pm
by MSimon
ladajo wrote:Sublinks from there yields that we are "InfoSharks". I feel some meaure of pride...and concern...but mostly a measure of pride...I think...
Well a LOT of the folks hanging out here are on the political right (as far as they are concerned I qualify) so I'm going with Pride.

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:08 pm
by Betruger
Still some Polywell echoes at dailykos.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/0 ... ean-Energy

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:27 pm
by MSimon
Betruger wrote:Still some Polywell echoes at dailykos.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/0 ... ean-Energy
Note that our very own Roger Fox makes an appearance in the comments.

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:30 am
by TDPerk
Talk of the Polywell at DU would only be useful for entertainment value.

When the deep ecologists get out the long knives for anyone who shows any enthusiasm.

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:59 pm
by Occulus
TDPerk wrote:Talk of the Polywell at DU would only be useful for entertainment value.

When the deep ecologists get out the long knives for anyone who shows any enthusiasm.
I've been a member of DU for, well, forever. In my experience- and having started threads on this subject over there myself- people who still hold to core liberal and progressive values want fusion power just as badly as anyone here. This project isn't a left/right issue and should never be cast as such.

That said, if you wanted to start erasing the divisions between the left and the right, development of fusion power would be a place to start.

The Polywell project always seems to receive favorable opinion as far as I've been able to tell. A few people over there don't like the military relationship the project has, but they're not numerous and very much in the minority.

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:41 am
by Diogenes
Occulus wrote:
TDPerk wrote:Talk of the Polywell at DU would only be useful for entertainment value.

When the deep ecologists get out the long knives for anyone who shows any enthusiasm.
I've been a member of DU for, well, forever. In my experience- and having started threads on this subject over there myself- people who still hold to core liberal and progressive values want fusion power just as badly as anyone here. This project isn't a left/right issue and should never be cast as such.

That said, if you wanted to start erasing the divisions between the left and the right, development of fusion power would be a place to start.

The Polywell project always seems to receive favorable opinion as far as I've been able to tell. A few people over there don't like the military relationship the project has, but they're not numerous and very much in the minority.
It was a bad day the political door ever got opened over here. The site was better before the bickering started.

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:18 am
by Roger
Occulus wrote:

That said, if you wanted to start erasing the divisions between the left and the right, development of fusion power would be a place to start.
And occasionally the stereotypes do get put aside, and sometimes not:
Occulus (19,055 posts)
10. They seem to think we don't want fusion power.

I know I differ on that; humanity badly needs fusion.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12287022#post10
When ever I post about Polywell at Daily Kos or at DU, the response is at a minimum 99% favorable. I find it more likely someone will cite Todd Rider as to why Polywell will thermalize, writing Polywell off, than people complaining about the military funding.

If someone wants ignore the overall favorability and hope of success for Polywell on the left side of the isle, and believe in some fantasy stereotype that doesn't exist- they do so to their own detriment.

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:17 pm
by MSimon
Roger wrote:
Occulus wrote: That said, if you wanted to start erasing the divisions between the left and the right, development of fusion power would be a place to start.
And occasionally the stereotypes do get put aside, and sometimes not:
Occulus (19,055 posts)
10. They seem to think we don't want fusion power.

I know I differ on that; humanity badly needs fusion.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12287022#post10
When ever I post about Polywell at Daily Kos or at DU, the response is at a minimum 99% favorable. I find it more likely someone will cite Todd Rider as to why Polywell will thermalize, writing Polywell off, than people complaining about the military funding.

If someone wants ignore the overall favorability and hope of success for Polywell on the left side of the isle, and believe in some fantasy stereotype that doesn't exist- they do so to their own detriment.
Roger - I only vist KOS and DU to look around (usually when they post a fusion article) and I'd have to agree with your assessment. The reaction is generally hopeful. And generally one or two pop up (whose names I haven't seen before) who are fairly deep into the subject. Our educational efforts have paid dividends.

It does seem to transcend politics.

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:50 pm
by Occulus
Roger wrote: And occasionally the stereotypes do get put aside, and sometimes not:
Oh, my "they" pithlet was reserved for the person above who said
When the deep ecologists get out the long knives for anyone who shows any enthusiasm.
and one person really isn't much of a "they", now, is it?

I will agree that it seems from past experience the people at DU and Kos (and in particular DU's Science forum) are quite receptive to the Polywell project. If you consider their snarky "always 20 years from now" approach to fusion power in general (and, ye gods, even solar and wind!), that's pretty remarkable!

I don't have the scientific or professional background to do a very long a detailed posting about it at either of those sites, but I think we would find that, were such a thread posted, it would be a fairly hopeful discussion on the merits of the project.

forum burped and posted twice

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:51 pm
by Occulus
Oops!