New bacteria engineered to produce gasoline/petrol.
Does not require anything but air; CO2 from the air we breath.
Nearly 100% carbon neutral! Breaths CO2 so global warming enthusiasts can shove it!
Again, THIS DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY FOOD LIKE MULCH OR WOOD OR LEFTOVER TRASH. Just straight up water, air, and light.
Polywell farms could power the bacteria at nights, energy density of hydrocarbons is still bar-non for how easy they are now to produce - battery tech can almost rot now.
This is clean, renewable oil on demand.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opi ... le1871149/
http://www.jouleunlimited.com/news/2011 ... production
Bioethanol, biodiesel, and biogasoline from CO2 only
The biggest problem with this is that you need a large surface of water that will be basically conatinated with ethanol. You can not just go and convert the farmland, it would have to be huge artificial ponds of this. I have never been a fan of bio ethanol and this does not really excite me that much. The yield is also only twice as high as the corn, which is at least usable as a foodsource in case of some sort of catastrophy that affects food supplies.
So yeah, I am not sure about it. It could be good, but honest, I would rather just see really, really cheap electricity from Polywell, DPF, even LENR than that.
So yeah, I am not sure about it. It could be good, but honest, I would rather just see really, really cheap electricity from Polywell, DPF, even LENR than that.
A biology that turns air, water and light into diesel scares me a hell of a lot more than global warming.
The lack of humility before nature that's being displayed here, uh... staggers me.
- Dr Ian Malcolm
No, I'm simply saying that life, uh... finds a way.
- Dr Ian Malcolm
Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.
- Dr Ian Malcolm
What do you think the oceans are full of? Benign algae? That shit is ALIVE. And probably not going to get replaced by our silly bacteria.
I suppose your Jurassic Park reference may be more scary on a several 10,000s year scale, as who can say what we make will turn into. Hopefully we'll still be around then and this bacteria will have remained unchanged.
But then, farmers have been selectively breeding crops for 10,000s of years anyways so I'm pretty sure the genetic "damage" or chaos we contribute to our world is already unstoppable. Think about wheat.
I suppose your Jurassic Park reference may be more scary on a several 10,000s year scale, as who can say what we make will turn into. Hopefully we'll still be around then and this bacteria will have remained unchanged.
But then, farmers have been selectively breeding crops for 10,000s of years anyways so I'm pretty sure the genetic "damage" or chaos we contribute to our world is already unstoppable. Think about wheat.
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Folks who quote fictional characters are a bit frightening too!seedload wrote: A biology that turns air, water and light into diesel scares me a hell of a lot more than global warming.
Fictional character played by Jeff Goldbloom, a greenie from way back, no?!seedload wrote:- Dr Ian Malcolm- Dr Ian Malcolm- Dr Ian Malcolm
We are going to need rags and oil for torches and smelters to make pitch forks. Unless we make them out of pitch. Then we could use them for torches.Betruger wrote:That article is dated May 5.
Better that than torches and pitchforks.seedload wrote:A biology that turns air, water and light into diesel scares me a hell of a lot more than global warming.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
Wait, Dr. Malcolm is not real? Your kidding?KitemanSA wrote:Folks who quote fictional characters are a bit frightening too!seedload wrote: A biology that turns air, water and light into diesel scares me a hell of a lot more than global warming.Fictional character played by Jeff Goldbloom, a greenie from way back, no?!seedload wrote:- Dr Ian Malcolm- Dr Ian Malcolm- Dr Ian Malcolm
Quote was just to convey a general sense of unease.
FYI, considering that Goldblum was also the guy who built that teleportation device and then unwisely used it on himself before it was ready for prime time, I am a bit suspicious of your claim that he is a greenie. I know, I know, he did ride a bike that time the earth was attacked by aliens, but I don't think that proves he is a greenie. Probably just a green phase or something.
Actually, I would certainly disagree with you that biological manufacture of hydrocarbons has much of a future for us.
If we had 'unlimited' heat from nuclear, then we'd simply generate hydrogen by dissociation from water, and put it through the usual industrial processes that can take us to hydrocarbons.
'Bio' does things at, well, a snail's pace! Too long, too much land, &c.. We need physical/chemical processes.
Incidentally, I believe you will find that the quickest [read; most efficient] way to generate biofuel is to grow a fast growing woody bush or grass, then part-burn it with steam to generate wood alcohols.
If we had 'unlimited' heat from nuclear, then we'd simply generate hydrogen by dissociation from water, and put it through the usual industrial processes that can take us to hydrocarbons.
'Bio' does things at, well, a snail's pace! Too long, too much land, &c.. We need physical/chemical processes.
Incidentally, I believe you will find that the quickest [read; most efficient] way to generate biofuel is to grow a fast growing woody bush or grass, then part-burn it with steam to generate wood alcohols.
"Probably not going to"bennmann wrote:What do you think the oceans are full of? Benign algae? That shit is ALIVE. And probably not going to get replaced by our silly bacteria.
I suppose your Jurassic Park reference may be more scary on a several 10,000s year scale, as who can say what we make will turn into. Hopefully we'll still be around then and this bacteria will have remained unchanged.
But then, farmers have been selectively breeding crops for 10,000s of years anyways so I'm pretty sure the genetic "damage" or chaos we contribute to our world is already unstoppable. Think about wheat.
"Hopefully"
Just saying that before unleashing a bacteria that changes CO2 and water into diesel, we should have a little clearer indication of what will happen than "probably not going to" and "hopefully".
I understand that you are mocking me. Pretending that I don't understand that the ocean is full of algae was a nice touch, BTW. I get it. Cute. And the lecture about cross breeding crops was nice too although not that relevant.
I just think the idea that we should be a little careful before we release bacteria into the wild that change the basic processes of life on our planet. That would be the distinction in my opinion. This one breaks the cycle.