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A strange fusion-fission fuel patent out today.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:32 pm
by chrismb
http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Pars ... %0A&d=PG01
I say 'strange' because of its curiously incredulous nature... yet a very big list of LLNL signees as inventors, and Gov sponsorhip of it.
(I would go so far as to say that any patent arising would be challengeable, because you just can't get that many people to invent a single concept!! Maybe two or three, four even, batting around an idea over a beer, but 10 is a bit unbelievable)
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:27 pm
by Giorgio
I am unable to reach uspto.gov.
Is it working for everyone else?
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:37 pm
by Ivy Matt
The patent number is 20110091004. Search for it on any of those patent-to-pdf sites.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:02 pm
by Giorgio
Yes, they are working. I was just trying to understand why I wasn't able to reach Uspto.gov.
It comes out that using the mobile Internet provider I am using from home I cannot connect to any .gov website. They are all blacklisted.
When I am in China I cannot connect to .org, when at home I cannot connect to .gov websites. Go wonder......
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:17 pm
by chrismb
Giorgio wrote:It comes out that using the mobile Internet provider I am using from home I cannot connect to any .gov website. They are all blacklisted.
When I am in China I cannot connect to .org, when at home I cannot connect to .gov websites. Go wonder......
Chinese mobile company!?
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:24 pm
by Giorgio
chrismb wrote:Giorgio wrote:It comes out that using the mobile Internet provider I am using from home I cannot connect to any .gov website. They are all blacklisted.
When I am in China I cannot connect to .org, when at home I cannot connect to .gov websites. Go wonder......
Chinese mobile company!?
Unfortunately is Telecom Italy Mobile, our main national provider.
Maybe tomorrow morning I will discover that China finally bought Italy.
That would explain everything!
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:31 pm
by D Tibbets
It looks like they are trying to patent a fuel particle makeup for laser inertial confinement. I wonder, is it a fusion reaction that provides neutrons for fision criticality, thus boosting output, tough at the cost of more fallout , or is it the other way around, the fision criticality (due to compression) providing the heating to fuse a D-T fuel- much like a hydrogen bomb. This would seem to be a compromise if the lasers cannot directly result in the necessary heating of a fusion fuel alone.
Dan Tibbets
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:35 pm
by Ivy Matt
Interesting. The LLNL web site used to have plenty of references to a hybrid fusion-fission reactor. At
one point LIFE stood for "Laser Inertial-Confinement Fusion-Fission Energy", or (about the
same time) "Laser Inertial Fusion-Fission Energy". Now it seems they've scrubbed many references to the fusion-fission plan, and LIFE
now stands for the less cumbersome "Laser Inertial Fusion Energy". Whether the change was due to some reason for optimism for pure fusion, a desire for a (slightly) more elegant reactor design (and acronym expansion), or a desire to distance LLNL's work from Fukushima's troubles, who can say?
Re: A strange fusion-fission fuel patent out today.
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:43 am
by KitemanSA
chrismb wrote: (I would go so far as to say that any patent arising would be challengeable, because you just can't get that many people to invent a single concept!! Maybe two or three, four even, batting around an idea over a beer, but 10 is a bit unbelievable)
Brainstorming session? Over beer and pretzels?
Re: A strange fusion-fission fuel patent out today.
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:11 am
by Giorgio
KitemanSA wrote:Brainstorming session? Over beer and pretzels?
Pretzels? Sign me on!
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:47 pm
by Skipjack
Beer? Sign me on!
Sorry, the kraut in me is speaking
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:26 pm
by KitemanSA
Skipjack wrote:Beer? Sign me on!
Sorry, the kraut in me is speaking
So ziss iss vhat maks you so saur!
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:11 pm
by Skipjack
So ziss iss vhat maks you so saur!
LOL, not all krauts speak that way. Most will actually rather sound like this:
"So dis is wat mehks u soh sauah"