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Heisenburg Limit Broken

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:49 pm
by ladajo

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:53 pm
by Skipjack
Its BERG. HeisenbErg, not bUrg.
One is a mountain, the other a castle.

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:21 pm
by ladajo
I am not famous for my spelling. Or, maybe I am...
:D

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:06 am
by KitemanSA
Perhaps you are INfamous for your LACK of spelling? But you are good at spelling compared to many on this forum! :wink:

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:10 am
by krenshala
Yeah, (mis)spelling can get interesting on the forums sometimes. :)
Skipjack wrote:Its BERG. HeisenbErg, not bUrg.
One is a mountain, the other a castle.
I can never remember which is which. "berg" is the castle?

OT: Interesting. I still think interferometry won't detect gravity waves, but I can see the usefulness for other things. ;)

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:53 am
by ladajo
IceBERG is the mountain?

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:33 am
by Betruger
:lol: It's probably not gonna be ice castle.
I reckon burg is the castle. It looks like the same root as bourgeois.

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:52 am
by KitemanSA
Skipjack wrote:Its BERG. HeisenbErg, not bUrg.
One is a mountain, the other a castle.
So is he Heisen-mountain or Heisen-castle? What's a Heisen, or maybe where is Heisen? :wink:

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:56 am
by ladajo
Isn't a Heisen some sort of trophy...? Oh, wait... :D

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:57 am
by ladajo
I remember now... a Heisen is the trophy those Rockstar Drag Racing Mice get when they win a race.

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:08 pm
by happyjack27
i hate how when news sells this kind of stuff they get it so fundamentally wrong.

they didn't break any kind of "limit" they just changed what it was that was being measured.

if the uncertainty rule was somehow broken they wouldn't even get an interference pattern in the first place.

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:11 pm
by D Tibbets
Comments about spelling aside, the claim, if true, could be very significant. But, linking to a subsequent page-

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 09778.html

Reveals that their claims are an extrapolation. That is far different than a real demonstration.

Dan Tibbets

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:54 pm
by Ivy Matt
In Old English the word beorg/beorh meant "hill" or "mountain", while the word burg/burh/buruh or byrig (dative case) meant "fortress" or "fortified town/city". I'm not aware that the former word survived into Modern English in any form ("iceberg" is believed to have been borrowed from Dutch). The common Old English word for hill or mountain was dūn, which survives in place names containing "Down" or ending in "-don", and also in the common adverb "down". ("Dune" was borrowed from Dutch.) The various forms of burg survive in numerous British place names ending in "-burgh", "-borough", and (from the dative case) "-bury".

I don't know what "Heisen" means. If it were "Eisenberg" it would mean "iron mountain", but I don't know that the Germans are as cavalier about their initial aitches as are some other languages.

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:19 pm
by Skipjack
I dont quite know what Heisen means either and I am German. It might be some old long lost word.
It could be an old form of Eisen, but I doubt it.
Eisberg is the german word for iceberg, btw.
It is pronaunced the same way iceberg is in English.

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:28 pm
by CaptainBeowulf
You know, I don't think I ever learned what the German word for ice is. Is it Eis? That would make sense, it would be the same root, just spelled differently.

Of course I could look in an English-German dictionary, but that would require not being lazy.