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GIThruster wrote:Johan, if you post the details of who you sent the substrates to, their phone numbers, email addresses, the dates you did this, etc., then those here in the forum might be moved to call, write etc. and ask these people what is the scoop.

Is there some reason for you to not be this forthcoming?
Yes there is. Confidentiality and non-disclosure is involved. If they are not willing to respond to my e-mail requests, I am not going to put pressure on them through a public forum. Thanks for the offer.

Furthermore, their input is not really required:. All that people should do is to read my physics and show me using REAL physics and logic why I am wrong in what I have already claimed. I am the FIRST physicist EVER who can prove that charge is transferred without an electric field being present and give a mechanism why this is possible. This HAS NEVER been done for any other phase for which superconduction has been claimed. I find it absolutely absurd that with my facts I have to keep on defending myself against bigotry while the mainstream scientsists have NEVER and CANNOT prove that the electric-field is actually cancelled within the materials they cliam to be superconducting. Can nobody understand undergraduate physics anymore?

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As Einstien once quiped: I don't understand why they sent 100 physicist to counter my claims, when all they needed was one little fact!

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Yes well, we're talking apples and oranges again. Theory is not fact, and given Johan's theory is revolutionary science, it will inevitably face fierce opposition. The way through this is with the facts, not with more theory. This is what makes issues like the previous attempts at validation so significant.

If it were me, I'd have my lawyers writing the people with the substrate samples. A short note with the proper letterhead, delivered confirmed can accomplish a great deal, especially when these folks did not pay for the substrates. They're Johan's property.

That's a stronger approach than more appeals concerning theory, IMHO.
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johanfprins wrote:
GIThruster wrote:Johan, if you post the details of who you sent the substrates to, their phone numbers, email addresses, the dates you did this, etc., then those here in the forum might be moved to call, write etc. and ask these people what is the scoop.

Is there some reason for you to not be this forthcoming?
Yes there is. Confidentiality and non-disclosure is involved. If they are not willing to respond to my e-mail requests, I am not going to put pressure on them through a public forum. Thanks for the offer.

Furthermore, their input is not really required:. All that people should do is to read my physics and show me using REAL physics and logic why I am wrong in what I have already claimed. I am the FIRST physicist EVER who can prove that charge is transferred without an electric field being present and give a mechanism why this is possible. This HAS NEVER been done for any other phase for which superconduction has been claimed. I find it absolutely absurd that with my facts I have to keep on defending myself against bigotry while the mainstream scientsists have NEVER and CANNOT prove that the electric-field is actually cancelled within the materials they cliam to be superconducting. Can nobody understand undergraduate physics anymore?
Because the majority of "scientists" today aren't scientists... Hence why Hal Lewis resigned from the APS:

http://www.thegwpf.org/ipcc-news/1670-h ... ciety.html

Your theory flies in the face of what they believe about the universe. It shatters preconceptions that they have held since they were little kids. These "scientists" aren't concerned about finding truth, they're concerned with defending their preconceived notions.

If it makes you feel any better, they did the same thing with Copernicus and Galileo. That puts you in good company.

By the way, did that eMail make it through ok?

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Post by icarus »

I can't why you people keep hassling Prins, he has made it abundantly clear what needs to be done.

Just BUY his book and read it and you will be enlightened beyond your wildest dreams.

Or an even better alternative is to GIVE give him millions and a well-equipped lab and he will make your corporation rich.

How many more times does he need to repeat it?

No money, no tickee.

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GIThruster wrote:That's a stronger approach than more appeals concerning theory, IMHO.
There is no point speculating on what Johan's approach is. It is confidential. Everything is confidential. I presume you can't even buy his book because his publisher's name is confidential, but if you do find that out then you need to keep it confidential, and best you don't read it if you get it, else you might've read something he wanted to keep confidential.

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Actually, I've had the book for a few weeks. I just haven't had time to crack it yet. :-)
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GIThruster wrote:Yes well, we're talking apples and oranges again. Theory is not fact, and given Johan's theory is revolutionary science,
It is an experimentally established fact that dipoles form over interfaces to cancel an existing field by generating an opposite porarisation field. When extracting electrons from a diamond with an anode, such a dipole is formed to cancel the applied electric-field over the diamond's surface; and when the electrons are extracted further to reach and enter the anode the dipole still cancels the applied electric field.

Experimentally it is then found that a current keeps on flowing even though the experimentally determined fact is that there cannot be an electric field between the diamond surface and the anode. Where does my theory of superconductivity comes into it? The facts are all exprerimental. Give me any other "superconducting" material for which the absence of an electric-field has been as directly proven experimentally as in my case!

So I am thus the first to really prove experimentally that there really need not be an electric-field! The probability is greater that all the other materials which had been claimed to be superconducting are, in contrast with my data, not treal superconductors since in not a single one of those cases there exists a direct experimental proof that the electric-field is or must be zero.
The way through this is with the facts, not with more theory. This is what makes issues like the previous attempts at validation so significant.
As I have pointed out time and again that my theory of superconduction came after the experimental fact that there is not and cannot be an electric field between the diamond and the anode, but that charge-transfer is still measured. It is a straightforward experimental fact.
If it were me, I'd have my lawyers writing the people with the substrate samples. A short note with the proper letterhead, delivered confirmed can accomplish a great deal, especially when these folks did not pay for the substrates. They're Johan's property.
This would be the wrong way. One cannot force people to talk when they are clearly unwilling to do so. Why they are unwilling, one can only speculate on. Usually it involves grant-money and position and prestige: PEER PRESSURE DETERMINES WHAT HAPPENS NOT LOGIC AND FACT!.
That's a stronger approach than more appeals concerning theory, IMHO.
My appeal is not about my theory, but about the experimentally establsihed fact that dipole-fields form to cancel an electric field with an opposite polarisation field. If people cannot understand this simple fact, and want to call it unproven theory, then they are so incompetent that one can only pray for them.
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chrismb wrote:
GIThruster wrote:That's a stronger approach than more appeals concerning theory, IMHO.
There is no point speculating on what Johan's approach is. It is confidential. Everything is confidential. I presume you can't even buy his book because his publisher's name is confidential, but if you do find that out then you need to keep it confidential, and best you don't read it if you get it, else you might've read something he wanted to keep confidential.
Very funny!!! How about resurrecting the Three Stooges: You are raally Hollywood material in this respect :lol:

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mdeminico wrote: Because the majority of "scientists" today aren't scientists... Hence why Hal Lewis resigned from the APS:

http://www.thegwpf.org/ipcc-news/1670-h ... ciety.html
Yes I cannot agree more.
If it makes you feel any better, they did the same thing with Copernicus and Galileo. That puts you in good company.
It is a personal consolation but does not lift my depair about the future of humankind. Don't we ever learn? Why does every institution founded by humans always end up undermining the very purpose for which it had been founded?
By the way, did that eMail make it through ok?
Yes thanks. A return one has been sent.

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johanfprins wrote:
If it makes you feel any better, they did the same thing with Copernicus and Galileo. That puts you in good company.
It is a personal consolation but does not lift my depair about the future of humankind. Don't we ever learn? Why does every institution founded by humans always end up undermining the very purpose for which it had been founded?
Just to state again (for is it the tenth time?) it is the expectation that things should be different that is entirely mistaken. If you'll look at history, in science or religion, you will find that every person's most deeply held or foundational beliefs, are and must be extremely resistant to change. When they are not, that person is psychotic. This is simple epistemology and psychology, played out through all human history, and it is the expectation that theory can easily sway these deeply held beliefs that is utterly mistaken.

And to the other above, Johan, please, you do not have "facts". You have "claims". Until they are validated, they do not qualify as "facts". As a philosopher, specialized in epistemology, philosophy of science and philosophy of technology I am telling you straight--if you want to get anywhere, you have to have your "facts" validated by others. There is no other way forward for you.
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" it is the expectation that things should be different that is entirely mistaken." That is so Nietzsche. Paraphrasing: When we take our measuring stick and hold it up to the world and find alas that the world does not measure up, do we ever consider that perhaps it is our measuring stick that is in error, and not the world?

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GIThruster wrote: And to the other above, Johan, please, you do not have "facts". You have "claims".
Not true. Kamerlingh Onnes and those that followed in his footsteps have only had claims that superconduction is occurring. I am the first physicist ever who have real facts to prove that what these crackpots have claimed is actually possible!
Until they are validated, they do not qualify as "facts".
By whom? by crackpots who cannot distinguish claims from facts? PLEASE!!
As a philosopher, specialized in epistemology, philosophy of science and philosophy of technology I am telling you straight--if you want to get anywhere, you have to have your "facts" validated by others. There is no other way forward for you.
If the mainstream scientits (and I deliberately left out an s) cannot understand simple polarisation and thermodynamics, and have promoted "claims" as being "facts" for nearly 100 years, who should I turn to to validate simple facts which any first year student with an open mind can understand? Please do not waste my time with your "philosophy", and read the simple facts I have alreadty published and compare them to the unsubstantiated claims by Onnes, London bros., BCS and other crackpots.

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johanfprins wrote:
GIThruster wrote:
Until they are validated, they do not qualify as "facts".
By whom? by crackpots who cannot distinguish claims from facts? PLEASE!!
Well look, you can certainly do as you like. I'm just telling you how science works. Science does not admit single testimony as cause to hold a factual matter as "fact". Scientific method requires repeatability as well as the repetitions that go along with, not just to document the method, but to verify the factual issues as "fact". Until there is such repetition, according to scientific method, you have "claims", not "facts".

You'll find this in any 300 level Philosophy of Science text. Sadly, very few scientists and far fewer engineers ever have to read such a text, which is why I have to agree with the notion several above that most "scientists" are not scientists, because they don't understand what scientific method entails. In the case of statements concerning factual issues, fact requires validation by second and third parties.

And that's a fact! :-)
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johanfprins wrote:Very funny!!! How about resurrecting the Three Stooges: You are raally Hollywood material in this respect :lol:
I'm glad I have cheered you up.

I try to serve the function of amusing T-P's readership, even by playing the fool if necessary, which is a small sacrifice to pay for the comforting knowledge that I am distracting my T-P chums away from the troubles of their daily grinding realities, so that a little weight is lightened off their troubled shoulders....

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