A strange fusion-fission fuel patent out today.

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chrismb
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A strange fusion-fission fuel patent out today.

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http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Pars ... %0A&d=PG01

I say 'strange' because of its curiously incredulous nature... yet a very big list of LLNL signees as inventors, and Gov sponsorhip of it.

(I would go so far as to say that any patent arising would be challengeable, because you just can't get that many people to invent a single concept!! Maybe two or three, four even, batting around an idea over a beer, but 10 is a bit unbelievable)

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I am unable to reach uspto.gov.
Is it working for everyone else?

Ivy Matt
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Post by Ivy Matt »

The patent number is 20110091004. Search for it on any of those patent-to-pdf sites.

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Yes, they are working. I was just trying to understand why I wasn't able to reach Uspto.gov.
It comes out that using the mobile Internet provider I am using from home I cannot connect to any .gov website. They are all blacklisted.

When I am in China I cannot connect to .org, when at home I cannot connect to .gov websites. Go wonder......

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Giorgio wrote:It comes out that using the mobile Internet provider I am using from home I cannot connect to any .gov website. They are all blacklisted.

When I am in China I cannot connect to .org, when at home I cannot connect to .gov websites. Go wonder......
Chinese mobile company!? :P

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chrismb wrote:
Giorgio wrote:It comes out that using the mobile Internet provider I am using from home I cannot connect to any .gov website. They are all blacklisted.

When I am in China I cannot connect to .org, when at home I cannot connect to .gov websites. Go wonder......
Chinese mobile company!? :P
Unfortunately is Telecom Italy Mobile, our main national provider.
Maybe tomorrow morning I will discover that China finally bought Italy.
That would explain everything! :D

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Post by D Tibbets »

It looks like they are trying to patent a fuel particle makeup for laser inertial confinement. I wonder, is it a fusion reaction that provides neutrons for fision criticality, thus boosting output, tough at the cost of more fallout , or is it the other way around, the fision criticality (due to compression) providing the heating to fuse a D-T fuel- much like a hydrogen bomb. This would seem to be a compromise if the lasers cannot directly result in the necessary heating of a fusion fuel alone.

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Post by Ivy Matt »

Interesting. The LLNL web site used to have plenty of references to a hybrid fusion-fission reactor. At one point LIFE stood for "Laser Inertial-Confinement Fusion-Fission Energy", or (about the same time) "Laser Inertial Fusion-Fission Energy". Now it seems they've scrubbed many references to the fusion-fission plan, and LIFE now stands for the less cumbersome "Laser Inertial Fusion Energy". Whether the change was due to some reason for optimism for pure fusion, a desire for a (slightly) more elegant reactor design (and acronym expansion), or a desire to distance LLNL's work from Fukushima's troubles, who can say?
Temperature, density, confinement time: pick any two.

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Re: A strange fusion-fission fuel patent out today.

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chrismb wrote: (I would go so far as to say that any patent arising would be challengeable, because you just can't get that many people to invent a single concept!! Maybe two or three, four even, batting around an idea over a beer, but 10 is a bit unbelievable)
Brainstorming session? Over beer and pretzels?

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Re: A strange fusion-fission fuel patent out today.

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KitemanSA wrote:Brainstorming session? Over beer and pretzels?
Pretzels? Sign me on! :D

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Beer? Sign me on!
Sorry, the kraut in me is speaking ;)

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Skipjack wrote:Beer? Sign me on!
Sorry, the kraut in me is speaking ;)
So ziss iss vhat maks you so saur! ;)

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Post by Skipjack »

So ziss iss vhat maks you so saur!
LOL, not all krauts speak that way. Most will actually rather sound like this:

"So dis is wat mehks u soh sauah"
;)

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