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Re: Sell The Whitehouse to Trump

Postby Diogenes » Fri May 25, 2018 2:53 pm

It's looking more and more like Brennan is patient zero for this attempted coup against our system of governance.
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Re: Sell The Whitehouse to Trump

Postby williatw » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:51 am

Obama Was Left Awe-Struck Following Trump's 2016 Win: 'What If We Were Wrong'?


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Riding in a motorcade in Lima, Peru, shortly after the 2016 election, President Barack Obama was struggling to understand Donald J. Trump’s victory.

“What if we were wrong?” he asked aides riding with him in the armored presidential limousine.

He had read a column asserting that liberals had forgotten how important identity was to people and had promoted an empty cosmopolitan globalism that made many feel left behind. “Maybe we pushed too far,” Mr. Obama said. “Maybe people just want to fall back into their tribe.”

His aides reassured him that he still would have won had he been able to run for another term and that the next generation had more in common with him than with Mr. Trump. Mr. Obama, the first black man elected president, did not seem convinced. “Sometimes I wonder whether I was 10 or 20 years too early,” he said.

Set to be published next week by Random House, Mr. Rhodes’s memoir, “The World as It Is,” offers a peek into Mr. Obama’s tightly sealed inner sanctum from the perspective of one of the few people who saw him up close through all eight years of his presidency. Few moments shook Mr. Obama more than the decision by voters to replace him with a candidate who had questioned his very birth.

Mr. Obama and his team were confident that Mrs. Clinton would win and, like much of the country, were shocked when she did not. “I couldn’t shake the feeling that I should have seen it coming,” Mr. Rhodes writes. “Because when you distilled it, stripped out the racism and misogyny, we’d run against Hillary eight years ago with the same message Trump had used: She’s part of a corrupt establishment that can’t be trusted to bring change.”






https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa ... g-n2485949



His aides reassured him that he still would have won had he been able to run for another term and that the next generation had more in common with him than with Mr. Trump.


Even if that is true...young people tend to get more conservative with age and also tend to vote far less per capita than their older brethren. If you want to be the "cool", "hip" , candidate that the young folks like fine; don't be surprised if it is the rapidly growing higher voting demographic of the older folks (the grownups) who are the ones who decide who actually wins the election.

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Re: Sell The Whitehouse to Trump

Postby williatw » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:49 am

Bill Maher is 'hoping for' an economic collapse so he can 'get rid of Trump': 'Sorry if that hurts people'

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HBO host Bill Maher reportedly said he's hoping for an economic collapse.

HBO host Bill Maher said Friday that he is "hoping for" an economic collapse because that is the only way the president's opponents can "get rid of Trump."

Maher first asked guest Shermichael Singleton to asses the current economy under President Trump.

"It is going well," Singleton answered. "For now." "Thank you, that’s my question,” Maher added. “I feel like the bottom has to fall out at some point, and by the way, I’m hoping for it."

"I think one way you get rid of Trump is a crashing economy. So please, bring on the recession. Sorry if that hurts people, but it’s either root for a recession or you lose your democracy.”

The economy appears to be improving under President Trump despite his ongoing trade war with both China and U.S. allies.
Earler in June, the unemployment rate fell to 3.8 percent, a 50-year low.









https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... rts-people

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Re: Sell The Whitehouse to Trump

Postby williatw » Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:34 pm

williatw wrote:Trump is reportedly talking about Supreme Court justices' health issues, privately predicting he'll be able to appoint 4



Justice Anthony Kennedy — who is 81 years old — is rumored to be thinking about retirement.


viewtopic.php?f=8&t=6017&p=130084&hilit=justice+kennedy+health#p130084

Not a rumor anymore...now a fact; the Dems must be shi&%ing in their pants as we speak:


Justice Kennedy, the pivotal swing vote on the Supreme Court, announces retirement


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Justice Anthony M. Kennedy announced Wednesday that he is retiring from the Supreme Court, a move that gives President Trump the chance to replace the court’s pivotal justice and dramatically shift the institution to the right, setting up a bitter partisan showdown on Kennedy’s successor.

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“It has been the greatest honor and privilege to serve our nation in the federal judiciary for 43 years, 30 of those years on the Supreme Court,” Kennedy, who is stepping down July 31, said in a statement.


Trump said in the interview today covered by Fox News that he discussed with him (Kennedy) names of possible successors but pointedly said he would pick the name from his previously indicated "list" of judges.




http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/justic ... id=U218DHP


This (the 2016 presidential election) is shaping up to have been one of the most important ones in many decades; mark my words, Ruth Bader Ginsburg will be next...

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Re: Sell The Whitehouse to Trump

Postby Diogenes » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:07 pm

I think I'll just put this out there.

Unsealed Indictment released for Hillary Clinton campaign chairman Joel Davis. PDF


https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press ... 6/download


You seeing this Tom?
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Re: Sell The Whitehouse to Trump

Postby Diogenes » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:08 pm

williatw wrote:
Trump said in the interview today covered by Fox News that he discussed with him (Kennedy) names of possible successors but pointedly said he would pick the name from his previously indicated "list" of judges.





Still not tired of "Winning!" :)
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Re: Sell The Whitehouse to Trump

Postby williatw » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:54 pm

Diogenes wrote:Still not tired of "Winning!" :)



According to Wikipedia:


As of June 18, 2018, the United States Senate has confirmed 42 Article III judges nominated by President Trump, including 1 Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, 21 judges for the United States Courts of Appeals, 20 judges for the United States District Courts, and 0 judges for the United States Court of International Trade.[2] There are currently 91 nominations to Article III courts awaiting Senate action, including 13 for the Courts of Appeals, 76 for the District Courts, and 2 for the Court of International Trade.[3]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_f ... nald_Trump

Sounds like he (Trump) has been a busy little beaver as far as his judicial nominations are concerned; this list doesn't include his to be determined new SCOTUS nominee of course. Understand some of these nominees are being held up by Senator Jeff Flake to force a vote on Trump's tariffs.

Democrats' best hope to stall Trump's next Supreme Court justice just collapsed

Democrats' best hope of blocking President Donald Trump's upcoming Supreme Court nomination just fizzled out.
•Republican Sen. Jeff Flake of Arizona said he wouldn't block Trump's nominee from getting out of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
•Flake had blocked lower-court nominees in hopes of getting a Senate vote on curtailing Trump's tariff powers.


http://www.businessinsider.com/jeff-fla ... edy-2018-6

These federal judicial appointments may very well be Trump's primary legacy; IMHO Roe vs Wade is liable to be toast if he confirms another Conservative judge to the SCOTUS from his list, to say nothing of the effect if he replaces Ruth Bader Ginsburg as well.

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Re: Sell The Whitehouse to Trump

Postby TDPerk » Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:07 pm

Diogenes wrote:I think I'll just put this out there.

Unsealed Indictment released for Hillary Clinton campaign chairman Joel Davis. PDF


https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press ... 6/download


You seeing this Tom?


Which Tom?
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Re: Sell The Whitehouse to Trump

Postby Diogenes » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:03 am

Ligon.
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Re: Sell The Whitehouse to Trump

Postby paperburn1 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:22 pm

Whats your point? I think the entire swamp needs to be drained and started over.
Remember when you point a finger at something that leaves three pointing back at you.

Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
Republican United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was charged with molesting his 9-year old step-daughter after including her in an anti-Gore television commercial
Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline was placed under house arrest for child molestation and possession of child pornography.
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

Any way the point being, Its not left versus right but good versus evil and to think anything else is self delusional. Open your mind to the fact we have to clean our own ranks before we go forth to clean others.
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Re: Sell The Whitehouse to Trump

Postby Tom Ligon » Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:43 am

Diogenes wrote:Ligon.


Why should I give a flying f....? She ain't in office. But I suppose you'll tell us next that she was watching, eating a pizza.

You keep thinking I'm a Hillary supporter. I simply detest the lying meglomaniac you think is God. You know, the one who admires murderous dictators and thinks he'd like to have the same powers.

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Re: Sell The Whitehouse to Trump

Postby TDPerk » Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:29 pm

Tom Ligon wrote:
Diogenes wrote:Ligon.


Why should I give a flying f....? She ain't in office. But I suppose you'll tell us next that she was watching, eating a pizza.

You keep thinking I'm a Hillary supporter. I simply detest the lying meglomaniac you think is God. You know, the one who admires murderous dictators and thinks he'd like to have the same powers.


That's you lying, at least to yourself. Yes he's a lying megalomaniac, and more so than most Presidents. But not nearly so much as the candidate he defeated, and there's no basis at all for this --> "the one who admires murderous dictators and thinks he'd like to have the same powers".
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Re: Sell The Whitehouse to Trump

Postby Tom Ligon » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:16 pm

TDPerk wrote:That's you lying, at least to yourself. Yes he's a lying megalomaniac, and more so than most Presidents. But not nearly so much as the candidate he defeated, and there's no basis at all for this --> "the one who admires murderous dictators and thinks he'd like to have the same powers".


Ease off on the Koolaid! Your mind it toast. Try reading facts.

All we need is the words coming out of his mouth.

“He’s now president for life. President for life. No, he’s great,” Trump said of Xi at a lunch and fundraiser at his Mar-a-Lago estate ...

On Putin: “If he says great things about me, I’m going to say great things about him. I’ve already said, he is really very much of a leader. I mean, you can say, ‘Oh, isn’t that a terrible thing’—the man has very strong control over a country. Now, it’s a very different system, and I don’t happen to like the system. But certainly, in that system, he’s been a leader, far more than our president has been a leader.”

Erdogan: “Frankly, he’s getting very high marks. He’s also been working with the United States. We have a great friendship and the countries—I think we’re right now as close as we’ve ever been … a lot of that has to do with a personal relationship.”

Kim Jong Un: "If you look at North Korea, this guy, I mean he's like a maniac, okay?" Trump said. "And you've got to give him credit. "How many young guys — he was like 26 or 25 when his father died — take over these tough generals, and all of a sudden ... he goes in, he takes over, and he’s the boss," Trump said. "It's incredible. He wiped out the uncle, he wiped out this one, that one. I mean this guy doesn't play games. And we can't play games with him."

And then he calls for abolishing anything he finds inconvenient in the Bill of Rights.

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Re: Sell The Whitehouse to Trump

Postby williatw » Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:54 pm

Tom Ligon wrote:On Putin: “If he says great things about me, I’m going to say great things about him. I’ve already said, he is really very much of a leader. I mean, you can say, ‘Oh, isn’t that a terrible thing’—the man has very strong control over a country. Now, it’s a very different system, and I don’t happen to like the system. But certainly, in that system, he’s been a leader, far more than our president has been a leader.”



Trump's style in business and obviously now in politics is a disarming tactic of publicly flattering his target (Putin and others like "little rocket man") and then negotiating like a SOB:


In the annals of President Donald Trump’s odd dealings with Russia’s Vladimir Putin, give Trump credit for making a straightforward decision to defy Putin by supplying arms to Ukraine.

The State Department says the U.S. will provide Ukraine with “enhanced defensive capabilities” to protect itself against Russia-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine. What this means, according to news reports, is that the U.S. is finally prepared to help Ukraine’s military punch back in a murky conflict cooked up by Putin. American weapons going to Ukraine will include Javelin anti-tank missiles and sniper rifles.
Javelin missiles are tank killers. The separatists possess Russian armored vehicles. Are Russian soldiers fighting alongside the separatists? The Russian government insists it is not directly involved, but it’s interesting to hear the concerned tone of Moscow’s reaction to America providing arms. “The American weapons can lead to more victims in the neighboring country, and we couldn’t stay indifferent to that,” Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said.


Will that Russian reaction translate into a more lethal conflict? Yes. But war in Ukraine is a reality, and a West that flinches from the prolonged Russian incursion will only please Putin.

The bottom line is that Putin’s meddling in the affairs of other states won’t stop unless he is challenged. Trump has done that. Ukraine’s ability to fight back against the separatists has been hampered by a lack of firepower. Now it will get some. Now Ukraine can punch back.


as opposed to Obama:

President Barack Obama imposed sanctions on Russia but did little else after Putin took the Crimean Peninsula in what was the first big European land grab since World War II. Obama decided that providing lethal weapons to Ukraine would accomplish little but antagonize Putin. Yet refusing to arm Ukraine had the opposite effect: It emboldened Putin. Obama’s hesitance is one reason why Russia-backed rebels control eastern Ukraine today.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opin ... story.html

In other words Obama's strategy is making stirring speeches about not tolerating such boorish behavior anymore in the community of nations and assorted other drivel but not really do much; which do you supposed commands Putin's respect/concern more? Empty rhetoric or:


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Last July, U.S. President Donald Trump stood beside his Polish counterpart, Andrzej Duda, in Warsaw and promised to help wean the nation off Russian energy imports. He offered U.S. fuel as an alternative, "so that you can never be held hostage to a single supplier."

Trump was tapping into longstanding European concerns about Russia's ability to shut off natural gas supplies - which it has done in past pricing disputes. U.S. lawmakers say Russia's influence over energy has proven effective in silencing critics of its human rights abuses, annexation of Crimea, and incursion into eastern Ukraine, an assertion the Kremlin has denied.

Six months after Trump's trip, Poland has contracted for imports of U.S. liquefied natural gas (LNG), crude oil, and coal, and announced it will not renew a gas supply deal with Russia's state-owned Gazprom when it expires in 2022 - halting an exclusive and troubled relationship dating to 1944.

The episode exemplifies a key goal of Trump's "energy dominance" agenda - using rising energy exports to bolster Washington's geopolitical influence.


http://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-e ... ope-2018-2

Which do you think Putin is concerned most about Tom? Empty rhetoric backed up by mostly token gestures and lots of hot air, or something that hits Putin hard in the pocket book and therefore his hold on Russia (monopoly on natural gas exports to Europe)?

Or his policy with Iran after cancelling the Iran deal:

Trump tightens the screws on Iran’s oil

Is the U.S. aiming for regime collapse?



The Trump administration is pushing its “maximum pressure” campaign against Iran into overdrive, with Tuesday’s announcement that the State Department is aiming to cut off all Iranian oil exports by November. As this move underscores, Washington has abandoned the fig leaf of diplomacy proffered by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo last month on the heels of President Trump’s decision to jettison U.S. adherence to the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran. Instead, the White House is embarking on an economic offensive intended to collapse the Iranian government, which is already contending with a steady tempo of internal unrest driven by economic and political frustrations.


https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-fr ... irans-oil/

As opposed to the Obama's policy of giving Iran pretty much everything they wanted on their promise not do something the Obama administration likely knew they weren't going to keep.

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Re: Sell The Whitehouse to Trump

Postby williatw » Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:05 pm

In a negotiation Tom who would you rather be? Otis Russell or Seth Bullock:

Bullock vs. Otis Russell - Deadwood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66Q3xS8ZVws

God I miss that show Deadwood; wish it could have had a much longer run...even though he went on to star in Justified a show I liked nearly as much.


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