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Crime and Punishment: Oklahoma (& Texas) style!

Postby Diogenes » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:41 pm

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Postby GIThruster » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:36 am

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Postby williatw » Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:48 am

What is interesting to me is this: Our homicide rate is now at 40yr lows, even though there are more guns around than ever, and definitely more concealed carry permits. So how do our gun control friends make their argument for the need for more gun control? Answer they don't talk so much about homicide/manslaughter anymore the talking point now is "gun violence". Gun violence = murder + suicide. That’s where the 30K a year talking point figure comes from that they like to report. That way they can avoid mentioning how much lower the murder rate has gotten in recent years. The idea that strict gun control laws would have an effect on suicide is specious...after all Japan is their poster child for a disarmed crime free society and their suicide rate per capita is much higher than ours is. Their 2nd less successful strategy is to link gun control or the lack of it in the US for the increase in gun violence in Mexico which actually has very strict gun control laws. That is the supposed lack of gun control in America is responsible for Mexico's problems even if our homicide rate is half theirs in spite of their strict gun control.

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Postby williatw » Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:31 am

Preliminary Crime Stats For the First Half of 2011 indicate big drop in crime:

http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2011/de ... ats_121911

Normally these are the sorts of stats any politician would gladly claim credit for deserved or not. I mean we are at 40yr lows in homicide. But as far as I can see not much of a word out of the Obama administration. From the link above: the murder rate for the 1st half of 2011 dropped 5.7%. According to wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... ted_States
It was 4.8/100,000 in 2010. So that works out to a rate in 2011 of 4.54/100,000. The lowest rate in the US in the last 100yrs was 4.0 in 1957. So we are currently only about 12% above the lowest rate in the US in the last 100yrs. This is at a time when there are more guns around than ever to say nothing of concealed carry permits.

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Not Good odds.

Postby Helius » Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:49 am

It's gotta be more dangerous to do home invasion robberies than doing, say, bank jobs. My guess would be 1/3rd chance of being shot per home invasion.

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