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 Post subject: 10KW LENR Demonstrator?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:16 pm 
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Looks like Dr. Bussard's hydrogen-metal fusion hypothesis is well along.

January 13, 2011

There will be 10 kilowatt nickel hydrogen cold fusion demonstration on January 15 in Italy and peer reviewed papers

The Journal Of Nuclear Physics (Peer Reviewed online journal) is announcing:

Saturday january 15th Sergio Focardi and Andrea Rossi will make a press conference online about the presentation of the 10 kilowatt module reactor: with 100 of such modules is made the 1 MW plant in construction.

The press conference will start at 10 a.m. Italian Time.

It is a public demonstration of a significant level of power. The Nissan Leaf electric car has an 80 kilowatt electric motor

Here is the Italian press release. il Resto del Carlino is an Italian local newspaper based in Bologna, and is one of the oldest newspapers in Italy. Circulation 165,000.

Here is the Google Translate version of the Italian press release

Here is an earlier Rossi-Focardi paper describing their experiments and what they believe is nickel being fused with hydrogen into a copper isotope

A process (international patent publication N. WO 2009/125444 A1) capable of producing large amounts of energy by a nuclear fusion process between nickel and hydrogen, occurring below 1000 K, is described.

Hydrogen/Nickel cold fusion probable mechanism

The Focardi-Rossi approach considers this shielding a basic requirement for surpassing the Coulomb barrier between the hydrogen nuclei (protons) and the Nickel lattice nuclei, resulting into release of energy, which is a fact, through a series of exothermic nuclear processes leading to transmutations, decays, etc.

The reasoning presented in this note is based on elementary considerations of

· The hydrogen atom (Bohr) in its fundamental energy state
· The Heisenberg uncertainty principle
· The high speed of nuclear reactions (10ˆ-20 sec)

The hydrogen atom (Bohr) in its fundamental state, in the absence of energy perturbations, remains indefinitely in its stationary state shown below. This is due to the in-phase wave (de Broglie), which follows the “circular” path of its single orbiting electron. The wave length and radius of the “circular” path are determined by the fundamental energy state of this atom.

When hydrogen atoms come in contact with the metal (Ni), they abandon their stationary state as they deposit their electrons in the conductivity band of the metal, and due to their greatly reduced volume, compared to that of their atom, the hydrogen nuclei (naked protons) readily diffuse into the defects of the nickel crystalline structure as well as in tetrahedral or octahedral void spaces of the crystal lattice.

It should be underlined that, in addition to the deposited hydrogen electrons, in the nickel mass included are also electrons of the chemical potential of the metal. Jointly these electrons constitute the conductivity electronic cloud, distributed in energy bands (Fermi), and quasi free to move throughout the metallic mass.

it is conceivable that, for a very short time period (e.g. 10ˆ-18 sec), a series of neutral mini atoms of hydrogen could be formed, in an unstable state, of various size and energy level, distributed within the Fermi band, which is enlarged due to the very short time (Heisenberg).

The neutral mini-atoms of high energy and very short wave length – which is in phase with the “cyclic” orbit (de Broglie) – are statistically captured be the nickel nuclei of the crystal structure with the speed of nuclear reactions (10ˆ-20 sec).

For these mini-atoms to fuse with the nickel nuclei, apart from their neutral character for surpassing the Coulomb barrier, they must have dimensions smaller than 10ˆ-14 m, where nuclear cohesion forces, of high intensity but very short range, are predominant. It is assumed that only a percentage of such atoms satisfy this condition (de Broglie).

The above considerations are based only on an intuitive approach and I trust this phenomenon could be tackled in a systematic and integrated way through the “theory of time dependent perturbations” by employing the appropriate Hamiltonian

The mechanism proposed by Focardi – Rossi, verified by mass spectroscopy data, which predicts transmutation of a nickel nucleus to an unstable copper nucleus (isotope), remains in principle valid. The difference is that inside the unstable copper nucleus, produced from the fusion of a hydrogen mini-atom with a nickel nucleus, is trapped the mini-atom electron (β-), which in my opinion undergoes in-situ annihilation, with the predicted (Focardi-Rossi) decay β+ of the new copper nucleus.

The β+ and β- annihilation (interaction of matter and anti-matter) would lead to the emission of a high energy photon, γ, (Einstein) from the nucleus of the now stable copper isotope and a neutrin to conserve the lepton number. However, based on the principle of conservation of momentum, as a result of the backlash of this nucleus, the photon energy γ is divided into kinetic energy of this nucleus of large mass (heat) and a photon of low frequency.

Furthermore, it should be noted that the system does not exhibit the Mössbauer* phenomenon for two reasons:

1. The copper nucleus is not part of the nickel crystal structure and behaves as an isolated atom in quasi gaseous state
2. Copper, as a chemical element, does not exhibit the Mössbauer phenomenon.

In conclusion, it should be underlined that the copper nucleus thermal perturbation, as a result of its mechanical backlash(heat), is transferred to its encompassing nickel lattice and propagated, by in phase phonons (G. Preparata), through the entire nano-crystal. This could explain why in cold fusion the released energy is mainly in the form of heat and the produced (low) γ radiation can be easily shielded.


Further Reading

Is the Rossi energy amplifier the first pico-chemical reactor?

The nuclear signatures that can be expected when contacting hydrogen with nickel, were derived from thermal results recently obtained (Rossi energy amplifier), using the type of reaction paths proposed as the explanation of the energy produced. The consequences of proton or neutron capture have been studied. It was shown that these consequences are not in line with the experimental observations. A novel tentative explanation is thus described. Should this explanation be true, it is proposed to call pico-chemistry the novel field thus opened.

Nuclear signatures to be expected from Rossi energy amplifier

Strong nuclear signatures are expected from the Rossi energy amplifier and it is hoped that this note can help evidence them.

It is of interest to note that in a mechanism is proposed, that strongly suppresses the gamma emission during the run (it is the same mechanism that creates very low energy neutrons, subsequently captured by the nickel. This does not suppress the emission after shut-down, which should be observed, together with the transmutations described above.

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Ahhh, dammit, you beat me to it by a few seconds!


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Skipjack wrote:
Ahhh, dammit, you beat me to it by a few seconds!
Would've been faster, but I took the time to include the hyperlinks. :P :twisted:

This has come up previously:

http://www.talk-polywell.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=717

http://www.askmar.com/Robert%20Bussard/ ... Fusion.pdf

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Would've been faster, but I took the time to include the hyperlinks.

Yeah, yeah, rub it in, ggggg
;)
Anyway, this sure is interesting.
My post compared this to Pons and Fleischman and I am still wondering whether this will end up the same way.
Well, we will know a lot more in a couple of days. This serves someone who is as impatient as I am very well ;)


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Skipjack wrote:
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Would've been faster, but I took the time to include the hyperlinks.

Yeah, yeah, rub it in, ggggg
;)
Anyway, this sure is interesting.
My post compared this to Pons and Fleischman and I am still wondering whether this will end up the same way.
Well, we will know a lot more in a couple of days. This serves someone who is as impatient as I am very well ;)


those who think it's pseudoscience won't be perturbed by empirical evidence. those who find the empirical results curious will continue to ponder and tinker. so no real change. that's my prediction.


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djolds1 wrote:
Saturday january 15th Sergio Focardi and Andrea Rossi will make a press conference online about the presentation of the 10 kilowatt module reactor: with 100 of such modules is made the 1 MW plant in construction.


So how big are these 'modules'?

djolds1 wrote:
The nuclear signatures that can be expected when contacting hydrogen with nickel, were derived from thermal results recently obtained (Rossi energy amplifier), using the type of reaction paths proposed as the explanation of the energy produced.


So what isotopes are they working with?
Purified Ni62 fusing with bog standard H1 to produce Cu63? Since Ni62 has the highest binding energy per nucleon of any isotope for any element, I just don't see how they can produce Cu without losing energy.


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Pure speculation, but getting energy out of Nickle is not required. The energy might come from the hydrogen- which has the lowest binding energy.

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The average house has a 100-150 amp main breaker, which means 50KW is more than enough for one house. This probably runs a thermal cycle though, which makes such small installations impractical.

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It is obviously working as a hydrino generator. :wink:

GITMills, get y'skates on... someone's ripping off your work, and they don't even realise it.


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I might as well drop by their lab tomorrow. Is less than 2 hours drive from here.


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So have they lit a 100W lightbulb up yet with their "10kW" generator?

Giorgio, get a picture of that lightbulb glowing if you drop by .....

until I see the lightbulb I won't even bother reading the "scientific" guff ... there are just too many groups claiming these devices now to keep up with them all .... show me the lightbulb glowing and we'll take a look is the best they can hope for ....


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My main reason for wanting to go there was exactly that one.

Unfortunately I will not be able to do so, as they refuse access to anyone that has not been selected beforhand by them.

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Andrea Rossi
January 14th, 2011 at 6:43 AM

Sorry, the test in Bologna is restricted to a selected number of experts. You will be able to participate to the press conference online logging in the Journal Of Nuclear Physics.
Warm regards,
Andrea Rossi
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Giorgio R.
January 14th, 2011 at 2:57 AM

Is it possible to attend to the presentation directly in your lab in Bologna?



So, I will be attending the online press conference like everyone else.
No one will really care about their test unless they have some real big name that is attending and supporting their claims.


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kunkmiester wrote:
The average house has a 100-150 amp main breaker, which means 50KW is more than enough for one house. This probably runs a thermal cycle though, which makes such small installations impractical.


100-150 amp? What kind of house do you live in? A Castle? :D

Here we have 15 amp main breaker (at 220Volt net). That's a whopping 3KW of available power.


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My house has a 100amp main breaker, a dozen 15amp breakerss for individual rooms, and a couple 20 and 30 amp breakers for individual appliances (like range and furnace).


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Not only do they filter audiences but it's going to be an online press conference? So it's not even a live eyeball session?... Even Steorn made (tried) their demo live.


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