Peninsula College plans to build a reactor

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Peninsula College plans to build a reactor

Postby MSimon » Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:52 am

http://iecfusiontech.blogspot.com/2007/ ... pdate.html

I'm going to post Devon's request here. The best place to reply (for now) would be at the above link since it will give Devon an automatic notification.

Hi my name is Devon and I am a student at Peninsula College. I am currently a part of an undergraduate research project where we are attempting to build and IEC. At the moment we are trying to decide what level of vacuum pump we need for our fusor. I am looking through the books you offered in your blog but was hoping you could tell me how you came to a decision on a level of vacuum. Our advisor would like for us to prove mathematically what level we need.
Thanks for your help,
Devon


Here is a link to the Peninsula College's home page:

http://pc.ctc.edu/

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Postby JohnP » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:35 am

They probably want to check on http://www.fusor.net/

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Postby drmike » Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:35 pm

I tried to reply to this some where, but I can't find it now. Basicly I pointed out that you need to compute the density of particles from air and the density you need for fusion reactions. If you keep the ratio of the components of air constant (not how pumps really work, but close enough for a homework problem) then you can get the number density of particles you can live with.

Computing pumping speeds is another problem. Also fun, but different.

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Postby MSimon » Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:06 pm

The number density of particles you can live with is dependent on Paschen discharge.

Dr. B. says the maximum is 1E-6 torr.

You want the density to be as high as possible in order to maximize fusion.

Turbo pumps are rated in l/s pumping speed which for practical purposes in the region of interest is constant and independent of pressure.

So what you want to figure also is the input flow rate required to keep the pressure constant.

There is also the compression ratio problem. Turbo pumps have a compression ratio for H2 on the order of 1,000. So you need two pumps in series to get the outlet pressure up into the backing pump range (1 torr).

http://iecfusiontech.blogspot.com/2007/ ... mping.html

http://iecfusiontech.blogspot.com/2007/ ... esign.html

http://iecfusiontech.blogspot.com/2007/ ... tings.html

http://iecfusiontech.blogspot.com/2007/ ... uages.html

http://iecfusiontech.blogspot.com/2007/ ... izing.html

http://iecfusiontech.blogspot.com/2007/ ... alves.html

http://iecfusiontech.blogspot.com/2007/ ... meter.html

http://iecfusiontech.blogspot.com/2007/ ... -shut.html
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Fusion at Peninsula

Postby classicpenny » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:39 am

Derek Madison, one of the students involved in the Peninsula College Fusor Project reported to me in a voice mail that they achieved fusion on Jun 21. He says they will attempt to duplicate the results today Jun 23 at 10:30 AM in the Peninsula Physics lab.

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Fusion at Peninsula College 2

Postby classicpenny » Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:28 pm

Here are the Peninsula College students who made fusion on Jun 21, and again today on Jun 23. They detected their neutrons with a bubble detector purchased from Dr Derrico of Yale Univ (Yale will only sell their bubble detectors to other educational institutions.) Today I saw at least three bubbles appear in the gel in the little vial, after an exposure of about 1 minute at a distance of about 0.1 m from the chamber wall. Left to right: Devon (who originally contacted MSimon), Ivan, Sarah, Chris, Aaron, and Derek. They can be contacted through their advisor, Jeff Zirul: jeffz at pcadmin dot ctc dot edu.
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Here is the vacuum chamber.
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And here is the discharge glow.
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I did my best to resolve the bubbles in the gel - but bad lighting and limited resolution got the best of me.
Bill Flint

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Postby Roger » Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:22 am

Very cool, congrats to all.
I like the p-B11 resonance peak at 50 KV acceleration. In2 years we'll know.

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Postby MSimon » Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:05 am

Outstanding. Kudos to all.
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Postby drmike » Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:07 pm

That's great! Congratulations to everyone. That's a lot of work.

Now I really want a welder!!
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Postby JohnP » Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:25 pm

Really nice job. I've been trying to get something put together here at Northeastern Illinois University from bits & pieces we already have...

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Too cool

Postby WillKell » Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:54 pm

Congrats and Saludos!

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Postby MSimon » Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:10 pm

I blogged it at all the usual places with pictures: thanks ClassicPenny.

They sent me a nice thank you.

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Postby tombo » Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:10 am

You Rock!
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Finally Made the Local Paper

Postby classicpenny » Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:05 am

Well well. Finally made the local paper.

http://www.peninsuladailynews.com/artic ... /807030302


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