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The Democrat Economic Death-Star Strikes Again: Deepwater Oil Rigs Moving to Brazil Thanks to the Obama Moratorium

Regarding the impact of the moratorium, experts have described several certain outcomes:

• "Tens of thousands will lose their jobs"
• U.S. oil production could fall by 160,000 barrels of oil per day in 2011
• The marginal cost of offshore drilling will increase by 10% due to new regulations
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2010/0 ... again.html

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Simon's Law:

It is unwise to attribute to malice alone that which can be attributed to malice and stupidity.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.

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Maybe this will have a positive impact.


http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/op ... bled=false

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Diogenes wrote:This doesn't look good.

http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6593/648967
No, it doesn't. In fact - that's about as far from 'good' as I could imagine. :shock:

Ironic, isn't it, that the environmental lobby, pushing hard as they can to get oil drilling as far offshore as possible, seems to have caused the disaster that they were so anxious to avoid.

Of course, it all depends on how accurate the info and analysis is... but it rings true, unfortunately.
When opinion and reality conflict - guess which one is going to win in the long run.

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Josh Cryer wrote:Whistleblowers are already coming out. They were cutting corners. There are many rigs were corners are being cut. Profit over safe engineering, baby.

I have to admit, Josh Got this right. I was wrong.

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Diogenes wrote:
Josh Cryer wrote:Whistleblowers are already coming out. They were cutting corners. There are many rigs were corners are being cut. Profit over safe engineering, baby.
I have to admit, Josh Got this right. I was wrong.
Correct in this particular instance. Incorrect as to the general philosophy of engineering. See my sig below.
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The world record for a continuous concrete pour is 16000 m^3 over 2 days:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concrete#World_records

That's the volume of a concrete cylinder 5 meters high and 64 meters in diameter (Enough load distribution? Who knows.). Now, if that can be poured a mile underwater... Leave a center hole for the leak. Cap it after the surrounding concrete hardens by fastening a new valve onto a steel ring that was anchored in the pour. Might need to trim off the BOP first.

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DeltaV wrote:The world record for a continuous concrete pour is 16000 m^3 over 2 days:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concrete#World_records

That's the volume of a concrete cylinder 5 meters high and 64 meters in diameter (Enough load distribution? Who knows.). Now, if that can be poured a mile underwater... Leave a center hole for the leak. Cap it after the surrounding concrete hardens by fastening a new valve onto a steel ring that was anchored in the pour. Might need to trim off the BOP first.
Nice thought. How do you keep the concrete from eroding while it hardens?
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Build a concentric-cylinder form with a baggy liner attached around the upper rims. Pump out seawater to pull the liner to the seabed. Pump in concrete as fast as you can.

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No-one (including BP) have yet commented on my most simple and elegant of suggestions - blow the thing up in such a way that the seabed collapsed back in on the then-shattered pipe.

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MSimon wrote:
DeltaV wrote:The world record for a continuous concrete pour is 16000 m^3 over 2 days:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concrete#World_records

That's the volume of a concrete cylinder 5 meters high and 64 meters in diameter (Enough load distribution? Who knows.). Now, if that can be poured a mile underwater... Leave a center hole for the leak. Cap it after the surrounding concrete hardens by fastening a new valve onto a steel ring that was anchored in the pour. Might need to trim off the BOP first.
Nice thought. How do you keep the concrete from eroding while it hardens?
Romans figured that one out. There is a type of ash(?) that when mixed in makes "underwater concrete". They used it for port construction of sea walls.

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DeltaV wrote:The world record for a continuous concrete pour is 16000 m^3 over 2 days:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concrete#World_records

That's the volume of a concrete cylinder 5 meters high and 64 meters in diameter (Enough load distribution? Who knows.). Now, if that can be poured a mile underwater... Leave a center hole for the leak. Cap it after the surrounding concrete hardens by fastening a new valve onto a steel ring that was anchored in the pour. Might need to trim off the BOP first.
What was the volune of the Pantheon in Rome? I thought that was the single biggest pour (or something like it..trip to google for me...).
No one knows how they did it. On my many times in Rome I have always enjoyed seeing it.

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chrismb wrote:No-one (including BP) have yet commented on my most simple and elegant of suggestions - blow the thing up in such a way that the seabed collapsed back in on the then-shattered pipe.
So I'm no one?

As I've commented before, an explosion that large might fracture bedrock causing more seepage in the surrounding area.

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