Found this during google search on Polywell Fusion

Point out news stories, on the net or in mainstream media, related to polywell fusion.

Moderators: tonybarry, MSimon

Aero
Posts: 1200
Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:36 am
Location: 92111

Post by Aero »

Does anyone remember the details of the review schedule? With the first of these three solicitations announced on September 4, there doesn't seem to have been any pussyfooting around at all. In fact, maybe the WB-7 results were so encouraging that the solicitation process started during the review. The review was in August, and the presolicitation was announced 4 days later. How long would it take the Navy to prepare and approve the presolicitation paperwork? Maybe the results were less nuanced than we have been led to believe. The Sept. 4 date certainly does underscore the statement that the Navy is going all out.
Aero

rnebel
Posts: 144
Joined: Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:15 am

Post by rnebel »

This isn't a big deal. This is small, interim funding. It's called staying alive until they make a decision.

Roger
Posts: 788
Joined: Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:03 am
Location: Metro NY

Post by Roger »

Thanks Dr. Sounds like you get to do some shopping for doo dads to hook up to Wb-7.

Ok, I'm chillin....
I like the p-B11 resonance peak at 50 KV acceleration. In2 years we'll know.

TallDave
Posts: 3140
Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:12 pm
Contact:

Post by TallDave »

Thanks for clarifying Rick. Good to hear it's being kept alive, anyway, even if they haven't made a major decision yet.

energyfan
Posts: 33
Joined: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:49 pm

Post by energyfan »

oh....i thought it was going full throttle ahead .... but still good news i guess

Solo
Posts: 261
Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:12 pm
Location: Wisconsin

Post by Solo »

We're rooting for you! thanks for the info.

tombo
Posts: 334
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 1:10 am
Location: Washington USA

Post by tombo »

It is certainly a relief to see this moving forward, even if it isn't pedal to the metal.
Congratulations!
Maybe slowly is best. I've been rushed into mistakes all too often by unrealistic management or customer schedules.
Hurry slowly. But enough money makes all the difference.

Does anybody know what the "A--" prefix means on the solicitations?
Is this a priority or something?

Does the China Lake dateline just mean that is from where it is administered?
Or is the Navy physically moving the project into their main research center?
Moving a rig like that could set the project back by weeks or months.
-Tom Boydston-
"If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn’t be called research, would it?" ~Albert Einstein

Helius
Posts: 465
Joined: Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:48 pm
Location: Syracuse, New York

China Lake

Post by Helius »

Looks like procurement /provisioning, It just happens to be from that office of the Navy, who's has their procurement offices there.

It's in "keep-alive" mode, but it sounds like some interesting experiments and measurements are taking place still. --Good!
If they need to move the whole thing "outta the garage", then it'll seem it's pedal to the medal.

Now why is "China Grove" the tune that comes back into my head? :)

Aero
Posts: 1200
Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:36 am
Location: 92111

Post by Aero »

I am still thinking that this is more than stand around and wait money. The two new contracts don't say, "At Ease!" they say:
"Attention to this detail!"

Research of Electrostatic "Wiffle Ball" Fusion Device. The contractor is to specifically investigate the required instrumentation to achieve spatially resolved plasma densities and spatially resolved particle energies.

Now, Simon, a question for you and Dr. Mike. Dr. Nebel said this was keep alive research, but could it be construed as orders to "Give me a WB-100 design." That is, what size magnets, power supplies and so forth are required to maintain a 140 KVe potential well at 10^16 plasma density. And don't anyone copy my numbers because I have no idea how deep the well or the needed density. That's the question for Dr. Mike and Simon. And my comment is that the Navy certainly does not need a description of WB-7.
Aero

KitemanSA
Posts: 6179
Joined: Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:05 pm
Location: OlyPen WA

Post by KitemanSA »

Aero wrote:I am still thinking that this is more than stand around and wait money. The two new contracts don't say, "At Ease!" they say:
"Attention to this detail!"
I agree that this is not "at ease" but it ain't "forward march - double time" either. It MAY be needed to decide which direction is to be "forward" should the "march" command ever come!

My point is I don't see them buying more magnets in any of these efforts. Did I miss it?

tomclarke
Posts: 1683
Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:52 pm
Location: London
Contact:

Post by tomclarke »

As I see it - We know that Dr. Nebel et al have not yet gone home. This is how people can stay in place, and the 3 specific contracts are for useful work of the sort we would expect at the current stage.

It tells us that the project has not yet been canned. It does not say that WB-7 indicates clearly that net power is possible for WB-100. It does not say how much funding the project will receive in the future.

Still - not yet canned, with decision being made after results have been evaluated, is better than canned, and positive.

Best wishes, Tom

Torulf2
Posts: 286
Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:50 pm
Location: Swedem

Post by Torulf2 »

Can the move to China Lake depend on a need for a safe place for experiments with D+D fusion and tritium production?

Aero
Posts: 1200
Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:36 am
Location: 92111

Post by Aero »

I think its safe to say that putting $200 million into a garage in Santa Fe is not really prudent from a security point of view. China Lake offers all of the facilities and security necessary to conduct experiments of this magnitude and more. You know, machine shops, electric shops, laboratories, guards and so forth. In other words, it is probably the ideal spot to create a WB-100.
Aero

scareduck
Posts: 552
Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:03 am

Post by scareduck »

Aero wrote:I think its safe to say that putting $200 million into a garage in Santa Fe is not really prudent from a security point of view. China Lake offers all of the facilities and security necessary to conduct experiments of this magnitude and more.
Plus, dry lake beds for weekend recreational bombing runs! Yee-haw!

Helius
Posts: 465
Joined: Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:48 pm
Location: Syracuse, New York

Mail Routing.

Post by Helius »

C'mon. China lake is the location of the provisioning/procurement offices, and maybe only the mail routing at that.

Post Reply