Philosophy of History

If polywell fusion is developed, in what ways will the world change for better or worse? Discuss.

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Philosophy of History

Postby ckrucks » Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:37 am

Ah Kant, Marks?etc. Those nutty Germans!

Economies ?unexpectedly? change; after that power and control flip into the hands of a new elite with new expectations and new values.

Say this BFR project works.

What are the values of the decision making elite controlling the first ?public? phases of this project?

I?ll take this space to reject the arguments of those who feel given the success of the BFR change will be slow and integrated.

Historically, for a change like this the center does not hold. And folks that think when an economy changes nothing will happen become quickly disillusioned and/or disemboweled.

So?given what we know about the IP owners, the current clients and the implications of success (those we can think of) how will society reorganize itself? How will core values change? Who will be the new power holders? Is the little guy going to get screwed or will the little guy be better off?

To put it another way; what is the world going to be like when the Baby-Boomers are finally deposed?
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Re: Philosophy of History

Postby djolds1 » Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:42 pm

ckrucks wrote:Say this BFR project works.

What are the values of the decision making elite controlling the first “public” phases of this project?

I’ll take this space to reject the arguments of those who feel given the success of the BFR change will be slow and integrated.


OK

ckrucks wrote:Historically, for a change like this the center does not hold. And folks that think when an economy changes nothing will happen become quickly disillusioned and/or disemboweled.


Depends.

The huge revolutions like initial electrification, ICEs and telecommunications c.1880-1900, initial aerospace 1910-1940, computers beginning c.1980? Huge disruptions of the established economies.

Question is will a new power source create a similar revolution. Even despite their efficiency, polywells aren't small. They aren't Mr. Fusions for your Doc Brown flying DeLorean. Size of a house, minimum, including the direct conversion equipment. Wonderful for ETO and deep space rockets, but you're still talking boosters in the C-130 to Boeing 707 size range at the least. This is not the portability that radically reshapes the lives of individuals.

ckrucks wrote:So…given what we know about the IP owners, the current clients and the implications of success (those we can think of) how will society reorganize itself? How will core values change? Who will be the new power holders? Is the little guy going to get screwed or will the little guy be better off?


Minimal reorganization. Local generation of high output cheap electricity becomes much easier. Electric transport, plasma torch recycling and portable near-universal Fabbers are probable. Enforcement of IP outside the US/EU will be difficult unless EMC2 sets licensing fees really low.

Very useful, but still requiring significant capital plant. 18 wheeler trailer size, minimum.

ckrucks wrote:To put it another way; what is the world going to be like when the Baby-Boomers are finally deposed?


That my friend is a much more political question. Early-cohort Xers are similar in perspective to Boomers. Late-cohort Xers and GenY have a very different perspective.

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