Ice Age - A few of you would be interested in this

MSimon · Post by **MSimon** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:03 pm

This is General - open season on any topic.

There are no monitors. Thread drift is inevitable.

My "job" here is to weed out spammers and jerks like Isochroma. I'm not a thread herder.

If you count from my days on FIDO net I'm probably way beyond 10 million words.

Even if you only go back to usenet days I probably beat that.

KitemanSA · Post by **KitemanSA** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:45 pm

MSimon wrote: This is General - open season on any topic.
If you count from my days on FIDO net I'm probably way beyond 10 million words.
Even if you only go back to usenet days I probably beat that.

Mike Holmes wrote:I have over ten million words posted to internet fora (I stopped counting a while back)... I'm pretty much an expert on this.

I thought it was general topics as they relate to Polywell.

10Mword? Jeez, you all need a life!!

MSimon · Post by **MSimon** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:19 pm

KitemanSA wrote:
MSimon wrote: This is General - open season on any topic.
If you count from my days on FIDO net I'm probably way beyond 10 million words.
Even if you only go back to usenet days I probably beat that.

Mike Holmes wrote:I have over ten million words posted to internet fora (I stopped counting a while back)... I'm pretty much an expert on this.
I thought it was general topics as they relate to Polywell.

10Mword? Jeez, you all need a life!! :wink:

I have one. It is online. I have been doing computers since '75.

This is totally general. Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Look at the front page and read the description of General.

jmc · Post by **jmc** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:56 am

MSimon wrote:
And not to worry - taking money out of the economy and giving it to the government in a down turn has always been a recipe for a quick recovery. See Hoover, Herbert.

Of course passing out government money in a downturn has always been a recipe for a quick recovery.
See Roosevelt, Franklin.

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FD ... elNum=5409

BTW for those of you unaware of my style the above Re: Hoover and FDR is sarcasm.

That the problem with politics and economics, the size of the experiment (e.g. an entire large country) is just too big to obtain a control sample.

I don't think we'll ever know whether FDR or Hoover really made the recession worse. In politic the real is always compared the imaginary, which in any other science would be unacceptable.

Some will always say they made things worse, others will say they made things better. How can we get real evidence to prove one theory or the other?

jmc · Post by **jmc** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:59 am

MSimon wrote: Toyota is in a race with GM to get a plug in hybrid on the market. If GM dies autos will still evolve.

And on the EV side there's Tesla motors who have delivered 30 models by the end of September

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Roadster

jmc · Post by **jmc** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:02 pm

I don't think existing automotive manufacturers will get serious about electric cars until the see companies like Tesla Motors and Reva electric stealing customers from them and realise that selling electric cars is a matter of life or death for them.

MSimon · Post by **MSimon** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:29 pm

We currently have about 200 experiments running. Not to mention 50 states in America. The more government takes and redistributes the more sluggish the economies.

Growth rates in Europe which is more redistributionist than America runs about 1% to 1.5% lower than America. The jobless rate has also been consistently about 3% to 5% higher for the last decade or two. After a while it starts to add up.

MSimon · Post by **MSimon** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:30 pm

jmc wrote:I don't think existing automotive manufacturers will get serious about electric cars until the see companies like Tesla Motors and Reva electric stealing customers from them and realise that selling electric cars is a matter of life or death for them.

Toyota.

jmc · Post by **jmc** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:16 pm

MSimon wrote:We currently have about 200 experiments running. Not to mention 50 states in America. The more government takes and redistributes the more sluggish the economies.

Growth rates in Europe which is more redistributionist than America runs about 1% to 1.5% lower than America. The jobless rate has also been consistently about 3% to 5% higher for the last decade or two. After a while it starts to add up.

Yes and in addition to higher growth rates when compared to the European Union, the US has higher murder rates

http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcgvinco.html

a lower life expectancy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... expectancy

and one of the highest chances of dying before the age of 60 of any developed country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in ... ted_States

seedload · Post by **seedload** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:55 pm

jmc wrote:
MSimon wrote:We currently have about 200 experiments running. Not to mention 50 states in America. The more government takes and redistributes the more sluggish the economies.

Growth rates in Europe which is more redistributionist than America runs about 1% to 1.5% lower than America. The jobless rate has also been consistently about 3% to 5% higher for the last decade or two. After a while it starts to add up.
Yes and in addition to higher growth rates when compared to the European Union, the US has higher murder rates

http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcgvinco.html

a lower life expectancy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... expectancy

and one of the highest chances of dying before the age of 60 of any developed country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in ... ted_States

... the price of liberty.

ravingdave · Post by **ravingdave** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:05 pm

jmc wrote:
MSimon wrote:We currently have about 200 experiments running. Not to mention 50 states in America. The more government takes and redistributes the more sluggish the economies.

Growth rates in Europe which is more redistributionist than America runs about 1% to 1.5% lower than America. The jobless rate has also been consistently about 3% to 5% higher for the last decade or two. After a while it starts to add up.
Yes and in addition to higher growth rates when compared to the European Union, the US has higher murder rates

http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcgvinco.html

a lower life expectancy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... expectancy

and one of the highest chances of dying before the age of 60 of any developed country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in ... ted_States

I believe Charles Murray (author of the "Bell Curve") pointed out that European countries that like to bandy about the murder statistics were largely homogenous, while the U.S. is not. He also mentioned that if you don't count crimes committed by a certain minority group, U.S. stats are better than European stats.

Now that Europe is effectively being invaded by north africa, I dare say the murder stats are quite likely to increase dramatically.

Of course this type of information is in the catagaory of HOW DARE YOU MENTION IT ?

Sorry. I'll go back to make believe now.

David