Aero wrote:Just help me out here, semantics re. violating relativity.

It's clear to me that relativity does not address this point of physics. What Tajmar is investigating is not frame dragging, it is some other phenomenon not suspected by GR. Now, (always assuming that Tajmar's results pan out) clearly GR is no longer adequate for our scientific needs, but has it been violated?

Heim doesn't violate GR so much as extends it. 8D EHT and the original 6D version are both in the Loop Quantum Gravity family of theories. They quantize the background spacetime. Matter is an emergent property of that quantized spacetime, highly complex geometric assemblages of fundamental planck length squared surfaces. Time likewise.

For instance, D&H claim the proton is an assemblage of 1E40 planck surfaces.

Both GR and QM are well tested and verified, in most instances. A GUT needs to account for that, as well as the freakish outliers that "standard" GR & QM theory do not address.

Aero wrote:Well, maybe, but on the other hand, the accuracy of your quote is debatable. In particular, independent support is claimed for Tajmar from two different sources. One from the lead plate experiment by the University of Canterbury in Christ Church, New Zealand, the other from the anomalous Gyro data from Gravity Probe B. But there is a problem. The support is mostly claimed for Tajmar by one Dr. Häuser who has a vested interest in Heim theory. He was Dr. Heim's assistant, protege, co-worker or something. It happens that Heim theory has always predicted this result and Dr. Häuser has been publishing prolifically about it since 2002, basically since Dr. Heim passed.

(Someone will correct me if I am wrong.)

Droscher was the one who teamed with Heim.

Hauser & Droscher teamed up somewhere before the first 2002 publication.

IIRC, early Heim Quantum Theory predicted fundamental particle masses as far back as the mid '50s, and Dark Energy in the mid '60s, before universal expansion was observed & dark energy hypothesized.

Aero wrote:If you do that, then its time to buy Heim's books and really get down to it.

The German group "Research Group Heim Theory" has provided a sequential description of 6D Heim Quantum Theory:

http://www.engon.de/protosimplex/downlo ... s_en09.pdf
This reviews the 8D approach in conjunction with conventional MHD:

http://www.hpcc-space.de/publications/d ... od2005.pdf
And this is the most recent paper:

http://www.hpcc-space.de/publications/d ... PC2008.pdf