Re: Sell The Whitehouse to Trump
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:36 pm
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Tom Ligon wrote:Such is the case that Trump is guilty of obstruction of justice.Diogenes wrote: Years ago I read a great rebuttal of Henry Fonda's character in "12 angry men." Fonda pointed out that each piece of evidence is inconclusive because there was an alternative explanation for it that did not prove the defendant to have committed the crime. The Rebuttal I read asserted that individually each piece of evidence could have an alternative explanation, but collectively they form a chain of probability that implicates the defendant.
Tom Ligon wrote:You have failed to cite your sources for Pizzagate.Diogenes wrote:Nothing that conclusively proves anything taken on it's own, but such a long series of oddities that don't have any clear benign explanations. It puts it in the category of "We need to keep an eye on this in case there are further developments in this direction", but not in the category of "This is an obvious case of wrongdoing."
Tom Ligon wrote: All you have offered is "I find what I have read and seen about 'Pizzagate' deeply disturbing, and evidence that it is all some sort of misunderstanding would greatly relieve me, but of the several people who told me that it has been "debunked" I have yet to have any of them show me where or how it was debunked."
Where have you read or seen any credible evidence that this was other than a web hoax?
Well, Unlike accusations of Trump colluding with the Russians, (based on mostly dreck) nobody is investigating the weird coincidences between the Clintons, Comet Pizza and a potential pedophile ring among the upper elite of this country. If the same standard used to sic Mueller on Trump was used, there likely would be.Tom Ligon wrote: If you get to stick with this kind of malarkey without any more proof than " I have read and seen about 'Pizzagate' ", then you've got no business asking me to do Mueller's job for him.
Tom Ligon wrote:Aww gee, you're sore because Diogenes set that one up so perfectly and I spotted it.
Except that Trumps actions, and how one can logically string them together so that any single one of them might seem excuseable, but together they paint a picture of blatant obstruction, is all public record.
Tom Ligon wrote:
Whereas, we still don't know where the heck you and Diogenes and a couple of others are finding any credible evidence of Pizzagate at all. Just vague statements that it is from things "you read" and fitting the profiles you made up for the supposed perpetrators.
Tom Ligon wrote: And somehow, if you find enough made up stories and string them together you can think maybe you see a vile ring of pedophiles who drink the precious bodily fluids of their victims. Because where you are seeing a string of vaguely incriminating events, I'm left to suppose that you're seeing a string of made-up bits of hogwash, because neither of you cite any credible source.
Tom Ligon wrote: Leaving I think the majority of us, a very big majority, to think you have a dose of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKR32ImWYzw
Tom Ligon wrote:Oh, gee, that's right. You think the Ukrainians are all Nazis and think Putin is a Great Guy. Hanelyp thinks Pizzagate is real. Sorry, I get my easily deluded conspiracy theorists mixed up.
Do you all get this stuff from the same websites, or to you follow different ones? You never will say.
Tom Ligon wrote:Diogenes gets his information from Instagram.
Tom Ligon wrote: This is obviously the most unimpeachable source of information you can ask for. Beyond question, unlike all that Fake News.
Tom Ligon wrote: Case closed. There is no point in pursuing this matter any further, he's proved it beyond the slightest doubt.
TDPerk wrote:Diogenes --> " Actually, the contention wasn't so much that Pizza gate was real, it's that you somehow had obtained proof that it had been debunked. "
Proof it is debunked is the absence of any evidence for it.
TDPerk wrote: You have presented none,
TDPerk wrote: there are no reported victims, there physically is nothing to it.
TDPerk wrote: That idiot who shot up the place
TDPerk wrote: --there was no location in the building such as what the 4chan people who are your intellectual equal,
TDPerk wrote: said was where the abuse was taking place.