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Talk-Polywell.org • The Widening Divisions
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The Widening Divisions

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:39 pm
by MSimon


This comment is interesting (emph added):

...and basically say that most liberals prefer living in big cities and conservatives prefer the opposite, and conservatives want to be in communities where most share their religious beliefs. They’re describing the South, the Bible Belt, where you can get a big house for not much money but you’re often going to have to drive a ways to get to civilization.

Other polls tell us the rest. We know from all the available data that the biggest part of the conservative base are old white men heavily concentrated in the South, where I live. Time is going to change things considerably as much of the GOP base dies off. Hopefully the angry old white man thing dies off with them and we get past all this divisiveness that is so harmful to this nation. I don’t see us getting super liberal like you, but even in the south younger people are much more socially liberal than old folks. I’m not just talking about people under 30. People under 60 down here tend to be way more “liberal” on social issues than those a few years older than them. Even our younger religious people are way more open-minded than older Southerners. Cable TV, the internet, syndicated radio broadcasts, all of these things have made it a much smaller world and those of us who grew up in the Seventies and beyond are not that different than people our age in the rest of the country. Republicans had better figure that out if they want to stay in power down here.

My response:

They are different ecological niches. And the rules for those niches are different. The thermodynamics of those places is different.



A live and let live attitude would be the best.

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The difficulty is that none are looking at the big picture. Neither can see the other. At least for now.

Re: The Widening Divisions

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:31 am
by TDPerk
Look you idiot, you don't want the GOP to die off--the liberals don't do math.

For more then a hunter-gatherer lifestyle, you have to do math.

Re: The Widening Divisions

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 12:12 am
by MSimon

Re: The Widening Divisions

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 1:24 am
by paperburn1
It has been my experience , when something dies out something far worse grow in place of it.

Re: The Widening Divisions

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 2:57 am
by Betruger
For example?

Re: The Widening Divisions

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:22 am
by MSimon

Re: The Widening Divisions

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:28 am
by williatw

Re: The Widening Divisions

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:48 am
by MSimon

Re: The Widening Divisions

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:26 pm
by Diogenes

Re: The Widening Divisions

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:24 pm
by MSimon

Re: The Widening Divisions

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:52 pm
by paperburn1

Re: The Widening Divisions

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:17 pm
by MSimon

Re: The Widening Divisions

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:03 pm
by hanelyp

Re: The Widening Divisions

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:31 pm
by williatw

Re: The Widening Divisions

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:00 am
by paperburn1
Ok, lets make this simpler, when thing evolve and adapt to the changes of the forces around it there is the possibility of improvement, BUT when something is ripped from the system the force that fills its gap usually is not for the better.
Medical SCIENCE is not a social force.
I am implying more of a Rene Descartes view of social events.
"So it seems reasonable to conclude that physics, astronomy, medicine, and all other sciences dealing with things that have complex structures are doubtful; while arithmetic, geometry and other studies of the simplest and most general things – whether they really exist in nature or not – contain something certain and indubitable. For whether I am awake or asleep, two plus three makes five, and a square has only four sides. It seems impossible to suspect that such obvious truths might be false."
So if you rip or let the republican "die" from the system then what takes its place will not be a benefit to the social organism in the long run. If something is nurtured to replace that republican ideal then there can be a progress forward.