The Widening Divisions

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Re: The Widening Divisions

Postby paperburn1 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:13 am

A good example would be the old guard democrats of the early 1900s, they were racist bigots to the 9 degree.
when LBJ made steps to open the party to the African origin american then that's when the party started to take strides to equality for all men. He realized this step was necessary change to embrace if is political party was to survive the decade.
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Re: The Widening Divisions

Postby paperburn1 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:04 am

Just FYI there are TWO deaths directly connected to Marijuana consumption .
Apr 18, 2014 - DENVER - This week, two Denver deaths were linked to marijuana use, and while some details of the deaths have yet to emerge...
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Re: The Widening Divisions

Postby paperburn1 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:09 am

Alas , Never mind, I lack the prose and ability to properly express myself in the written word on this subject.
Social forces refers to the influence of the society as a whole has on the behavior of individuals.
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Postby ladajo » Sun Jun 29, 2014 3:38 am

The development of atomic power, though it could confer unimaginable blessings on mankind, is something that is dreaded by the owners of coal mines and oil wells. (Hazlitt)
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Re: The Widening Divisions

Postby MSimon » Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:53 am

Lots of things get ripped from the system and death is evolution's assistant.

And in fact with 50%+1 votes - politics is nothing but a ripping.

It was Teddy Roosevelt with his "Walk softly and carry a big stick" that set us on the wrong path. We forgot the "walk softly" part and have come to the general conclusion that you can get what ever you want with a big enough stick.

Politics is nothing but tipping points. Less of it would allow more room for evolution. The general idea that "we must stop this or stop that" (aside from simple rules that are universal and understood by a two year old - "mine, mine, mine" and "don't hurt me") has gone insane. It holds back evolution.


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Re: The Widening Divisions

Postby paperburn1 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:14 am

The best example of social force would be the Holocaust.
The Holocaust was a social force in that people had to choose whether to take a stand and resist what the Nazis were doing or whether they chose to simply be a bystander and remain safe.
When the Nazis were spouting antisemitic rhetoric, individuals believed them. Some individuals chose to discriminate against Jews when they might not have had they not heard what the government said about the Jews. but just because of what they has heard second hand and not experienced.
Another good example would be our president, even 30 years ago this would have not happened or even been considered as a viable option for running someone of color for president.
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Re: The Widening Divisions

Postby paperburn1 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:19 am

If we use Simon's definition of death caused by, then you would have to lower the DIRECT death to .1 per 100,000 rather than the 27 per 100,00 quoted in the articles.

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Re: The Widening Divisions

Postby paperburn1 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:09 pm

I will try and find it again, was from the CDC
Overall, the median death rate due to alcohol-related causes was about 28.5 per 100,000 people, after adjusting for the age of victims.
http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencen ... story.html

Better source
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/822014
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