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Why Neither Party Attracts Libertarians

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:33 am
by MSimon
Commenter Neil has a few words (I know him personally - 'net friend) to say. He is a techie (EE).
http://classicalvalues.com/2013/12/some ... ment-97025

Here is my short version:

Neil says: Libertarians don’t have an effect. For 80% of of them, “I’m a libertarian” actually translates to “I can’t stand Democrat policies, but for cultural reasons I can’t vote Republican.” They will not affect the vote.

Exactly right. Very well put. I call the “cultural” stuff – moral socialism.

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Let me add here that the defect is similar to that of the left - way to high an estimation of government power. Plus only looking at the good side of that power and down playing or ignoring the bad effects. In addition the unseen is not even contemplated. i.e. the invisible losses are not even considered. Loss of tax revenue say. Or labor market distortions. Or losses from avoiding government. Or the costs of policing. And the really biggie - black markets.

Re: Why Neither Party Attracts Libertarians

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:19 am
by Schneibster
For starters the Libertarians aren't libertarians.

Re: Why Neither Party Attracts Libertarians

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:08 pm
by MSimon
Schneibster wrote:For starters the Libertarians aren't libertarians.
And exactly how do you reconcile that with the start of a sentence or the headline of a post (which I do in all caps).

Re: Why Neither Party Attracts Libertarians

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:03 pm
by Diogenes
Because most of them are too smart to be Democrats, and too Childish to be Republicans.

Re: Why Neither Party Attracts Libertarians

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:53 am
by Schneibster
MSimon wrote:
Schneibster wrote:For starters the Libertarians aren't libertarians.
And exactly how do you reconcile that with the start of a sentence or the headline of a post (which I do in all caps).
Ummm, so you don't care to deny my assertion?

Re: Why Neither Party Attracts Libertarians

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:20 pm
by MSimon
Diogenes wrote:Because most of them are too smart to be Democrats, and too Childish to be Republicans.
Personally I could vote for Rand Paul.

http://classicalvalues.com/2012/11/thos ... andwiches/

I hardly see how not preferring statists (of either party) is childish. The "small government party" in its current configuration likes big government. Just a very little smaller than the big government party. I hardly see that as an inducement.