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rj40
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Where would move?

Post by rj40 »

Here is something for all political persuasions on this board who are citizens of any country.

Assuming your political leaders and the general political climate in your country became so antithetical to what you believe, what are your top three choices for other countries to which you would move? In order. And why.

And, since this is a polywell board, if you someday come to the realization that your country will never develop IEC fusion, or similar, what are the top three other country's that you would feel OK about succeeding at this? In order. And why.

Now be nice.

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Skipjack
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Post by Skipjack »

Well, I just moved to the US, mainly because in my (specialized) field there are more jobs here than in Austria.
Comparing the two (very different systems), I see the advantages in both and try to arrange myself with the disadvantages.
I would say that in Austria the quality of living is higher, whereas in the US the standard of living is higher.
To explain: Working in the same field I would make less money in Austria than I do in the US (even if there were jobs in this specialized field there).
The cost of housing is much higher in Austria, so I would not have a house there, but rather an apartment in the inner city.
In return, I would not have to worry about healthcare costs, I would have much more paid days of and I would get unlimited paid sick leave (in addition to paid days off).
I would not have to worry about whether my insurance pays for my doctor/clinic of choice.
Copays for services and medication are lower in Austria.
Taxes would be higher in Austria.
My car insurance would be cheaper in Austria and I would not have a "no fault policy", which is great if you are a careful driver like me and thus chances are that you would not be at fault in an accident.
My cellphone bill would be lower in Austria (50 versus 100 USD).
The cost of gas for my car would be about 30 to 50% higher in Austria, but I would be able to use public transportation in the town where I live (not available everywhere). Cabs are also cheaper (strange considering the higher gas prices) and easier to come by.
At least out in the suburb of the D where I live right now, cabs are hard to find, waiting times are eternal ( ~1 hour versus 4 mins in Graz).
Crimerate in Graz is lower than most of the US. Murders are very rare, but property crimes have risen in the last few years, but are not bad.

I would say that overall it is a draw and it really depends on what you care more about. If you want to live worry free (without having to be superrich) you are better off in Austria. If you want a chance to grow and achieve something more than mediocrecy, you are better of in the US.
I keep my options open right now. I am planning to stay in the US (though I want to move to Dallas since we have more friends there and the climate is nicer), but should my health get worse, I might go back to Austria. I do like to live, you know.

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Post by kunkmiester »

Stay right here. I'll be moving to a different part of the state, but I'll be staying. There is nowhere else on this planet that properly represents what I want, and this area of America is the closest. I'll stay here, and if someone tries to change things, there will be a fight. It's not a reasonable solution yet, but we're getting there.

Wyoming will probably be one of the first states to do IEC if possible. We're already trying to attract nuclear power, and even fusion will gather NIMBY type folk against it, but we don't have many of those here. So we'll be happy to sell the power to the Californians that don't want one in their back yard.
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Post by GIThruster »

I'm tempted to move to Honduras. There is an interesting experiment there, where a private investment group has signed an agreement with the Honduran government thin order to create an essentially tax free society in order to stimulate investment and job growth. It's on the ocean and there is property tax, but there are no income taxes, capital gains taxes nor sales taxes. The intention is to build a modern city from scratch and as I recall the infrastructure is already being installed. Interesting place to consider a new start.
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Post by kurt9 »

Singapore is the only place I would consider permanent immigration to. I've lived in various Asian countries (Japan, Taiwan, China. Malaysia) but would not want to live in any of these places permanently.

Europe is out for obvious reason (socialism). Same for New Zealand and Australia. I would consider Latin America (Costa Rica, Panama, etc.) for retirement only. These are not good places for doing business but are good for quiet living in tropical beach environment. Same for most of South East Asia.

GIThruster, the Honduran charter cities that you are referring to is off the table. The Honduran supreme court ruled the deal unconstitutional. I'm not surprised by this. Latino countries are very twitchy with regards to land and sovereignty issues.

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Post by kcdodd »

Well, I plan on staying in Texas. I might move further out into the countryside. But that would be about it.
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Post by Skipjack »

Europe is out for obvious reason (socialism).
LOL

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Post by paperburn1 »

Philippines, already have a house there and a wife from there , speak the lingo, and they might actually develop a polywell.

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Post by choff »

The citizens of western Canada endured a long struggle to lift the boot of federal liberal oppression from our necks. Now Justin Trudeau is being foisted as the second coming of the philosopher king Pierre Trudeau, because people back east feel bummed out living under tories. They've only had one term with outsider rule, not 2 or 3 decades like prarie folks.

I would pick New Zealand first, since a lot of Kiwi's live here and it's the first choice in general of B.C.'ers, very similar. New York or Nevada come to mind as a second, western Scandinavia third, that is, Iceland, Faero Islands, Norway.
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Post by Skipjack »

New Zealand and Island sound great to me too.

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Post by williatw »

Skipjack wrote:New Zealand and Iceland sound great to me too.
Don't know about New Zealand...but Iceland?!...you would freeze your nutsack off Skipjack.

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Post by ladajo »

Well, I do know about New Zealand. I was born as raised there. Skip, you wouldn't like it. Other than you might like that it is out of 1st world fallout zones.
As for me, I like it just fine, and if I can talk my mife into it, would be happy to retire there. Unfortunately for me (so far), she considers it to darn far away from the rest of the world.
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Post by Skipjack »

Don't know about New Zealand...but Iceland?!...you would freeze your nutsack off Skipjack.
Yeah, it is quite cold. I prefer the temps in Texas. There are a few reasons why I would like Iceland, the weather sure is not one of them ;)

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Post by choff »

The thing about Iceland is since the crash they told that banksters to stick it, and the economy has perked up ever since. So much so that the same bankers they refused to pay back loans on are trying to sell them new loans all over again. The mainstream media never reports on what's been happening there since the '08 crash.
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