Kid's Pot Use Up

MSimon · Post by **MSimon** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:36 am

Headline:

Kids smoke pot, don't drink

http://www.sfbg.com/politics/2011/12/14 ... dont-drink

seedload · Post by **seedload** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:00 pm

Fantastic! Great news! Bold it!

Again, have you changed from advocating for drug legalization to advocating for drug use?

MSimon · Post by **MSimon** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:22 pm

seedload wrote:Fantastic! Great news! Bold it!

Again, have you changed from advocating for drug legalization to advocating for drug use?

I propose that those heavy into alcohol switch to pot. It is safer. Evidently the kids have wised up to the fact. The "adults" seem to remain on the stupid side. But the OFs are dying off. It is no longer a matter of if, just when.

MSimon · Post by **MSimon** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:24 pm

BTW before it was made illegal cannabis was recognized medically as a substitute for alcohol for those with alcohol problems.

The post was inspired by a bunch of comments by those who said pot use among kids was down.

seedload · Post by **seedload** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:33 pm

MSimon wrote:The post was inspired by a bunch of comments by those who said pot use among kids was down.

The reply was inspired by the post that the smart kids are smoking pot.

MSimon · Post by **MSimon** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:47 pm

seedload wrote:
MSimon wrote:The post was inspired by a bunch of comments by those who said pot use among kids was down.
The reply was inspired by the post that the smart kids are smoking pot.

And the stupid kids are still getting drunk.

quixote · Post by **quixote** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:25 pm

Out of curiosity, how does smoking pot compare with smoking cigarettes with regard to its effect on the lungs? From what I've read in a casual google search, it seems to be much worse, but I haven't seen too much info on it.

Do you guys have any decent sources?

GIThruster · Post by **GIThruster** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:37 pm

MSimon wrote:I propose that those heavy into alcohol switch to pot. It is safer.

It's only safer if you don't mind developing cannabis psychosis and other permanent cognitive impairment.

http://priory.com/psych/cannabis.htm

There is NOTHING safe about pot.

Giorgio · Post by **Giorgio** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:14 am

quixote wrote:Out of curiosity, how does smoking pot compare with smoking cigarettes with regard to its effect on the lungs? From what I've read in a casual google search, it seems to be much worse, but I haven't seen too much info on it.

Do you guys have any decent sources?

I am not an expert in the field, but I think that lung wise smoke is smoke.

Giorgio · Post by **Giorgio** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:18 am

GIThruster wrote:
MSimon wrote:I propose that those heavy into alcohol switch to pot. It is safer.
It's only safer if you don't mind developing cannabis psychosis and other permanent cognitive impairment.

http://priory.com/psych/cannabis.htm

There is NOTHING safe about pot.

He didn't say that pot is safe, he proposed that "those heavy into alcohol switch to pot. It is safer."
Having known alcohol addicts and pot smokers (and not being part of either category) I tend to strongly agree on his statement.

choff · Post by **choff** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:27 am

According to this one, teens are using more cannibus than tobacco.

http://video.ca.msn.com/watch/video/tee ... a-infopane

MSimon · Post by **MSimon** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:50 am

Giorgio wrote:
quixote wrote:Out of curiosity, how does smoking pot compare with smoking cigarettes with regard to its effect on the lungs? From what I've read in a casual google search, it seems to be much worse, but I haven't seen too much info on it.

Do you guys have any decent sources?
I am not an expert in the field, but I think that lung wise smoke is smoke.

No. That is government propaganda.

the International Conference of the American Thoracic Society (ATS) concluding that smoking marijuana, even long-term, is not positively associated with increased incidence of lung-cancer

While the investigators’ failure to demonstrate a positive association between cannabis use and cancer may seem surprising to some, the bottom line is that scientists overseas have been studying pot’s potential anti-cancer properties for nearly a decade. Most recently, investigators at Italy's Instuto di Chemica Biomolecolare reported in the May issue of the Journal of Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics that compounds in marijuana inhibit cancer cell growth in animals and in culture on a wide range of tumor cell lines, including human breast carcinoma cells, human prostate carcinoma cells, and human colectoral carcinoma cells.

All from: http://www.drugscience.org/Archive/bcr1 ... ntano.html

MSimon · Post by **MSimon** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:54 am

A book on the subject from Amazon:

Marijuana Is Safer

ladajo · Post by **ladajo** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:41 pm

This is starting to sound like arguing that Full Metal Jacketed rounds are safer to shoot people with than Hollow Points.

MSimon · Post by **MSimon** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:03 pm

ladajo wrote:This is starting to sound like arguing that Full Metal Jacketed rounds are safer to shoot people with than Hollow Points.

More like water is safer than wine. Both will kill you if you drink enough. But you have to drink a lot more water at a sitting.

BTW the estimated overdose level for pot is something like smoking a thousand pounds in 15 minutes. (the number was put into the record and not contradicted in the DEA Judge Young rescheduling case) No one in recorded history has been able to do it. The dug deaths attributed to pot have all been poly-drug cases.

Did I mention smoking 200 cigarettes in 15 minutes will kill you? It has been tried. It worked.

What I find interesting is that on one of the major topics of the day so much ignorance and misinformation abounds. It is not like tying a few words into Google and following the links is so hard.