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Diogenes
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Evil? Now, perhaps. Later? Not so much.

Postby Diogenes » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:02 pm

People are unaware of the changes going on about them because they often occur so gradually that they seem trivial and insignificant. Incremental-ism is a successful tactic.

ScottL, this is exactly what I said was going to happen.


Visitors “profoundly shaken” by “evil” at academic pro-pedophilia conference



Barber is describing attending a pro-pedophilia conference in Baltimore last week.



A group of academics called “B4U-ACT” classifies pedophilia as simply another sexual orientation and decries the “stigma” attached to adults having sex with children.

B4U-ACT science director Howard Kline challenged supporters to pressure the American Psychological Association to stop defining the sexual compulsions of “minor-attracted persons” as a mental disorder.


Similar lobbying in 1973 by homosexual activists led to the APA’s declassification of homosexuality as a mental disorder. As a result, debate regarding homosexuality and the many documented harms associated with the homosexual lifestyle were all but shut down in academic psychological circles.






If a nation burns slowly enough, can you even tell that it's burning?


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Postby KitemanSA » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:46 pm

All these things MAY be true, but the difference between "homophiliacs" and "pedophiliacs" is that the homo type is only legal between consenting individuals, and with the pedo type, children by definition can't consent to sexual activity. Pedophilia MAY be "normal" but statutory rape is still rape.

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Postby Diogenes » Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:00 pm

KitemanSA wrote:All these things MAY be true, but the difference between "homophiliacs" and "pedophiliacs" is that the homo type is only legal between consenting individuals, and with the pedo type, children by definition can't consent to sexual activity. Pedophilia MAY be "normal" but statutory rape is still rape.



The concept of "consent" is a legal artifice. 50 years ago Homosexuals couldn't legally consent either.
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Postby KitemanSA » Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:13 am

Diogenes wrote:
KitemanSA wrote:All these things MAY be true, but the difference between "homophiliacs" and "pedophiliacs" is that the homo type is only legal between consenting individuals, and with the pedo type, children by definition can't consent to sexual activity. Pedophilia MAY be "normal" but statutory rape is still rape.
The concept of "consent" is a legal artifice. 50 years ago Homosexuals couldn't legally consent either.
IIUIC, homosexuals couldn't consent because they were considered mentally ill. Children aren't mentally ill, they are just young. And they, by definition, will always be the young.

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Postby Skipjack » Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:17 am

Pedophiles are sick. The kind of illness that curently does not know a cure.
They are like predators and they cant control their urges. The only way to deal with them is to keep them away from society.

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Postby KitemanSA » Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:24 am

Skipjack wrote:Pedophiles are sick. The kind of illness that curently does not know a cure.
They are like predators and they cant control their urges. The only way to deal with them is to keep them away from society.
To all things there are degrees. Some pedophiliacs control their urges and others do not. Are those that do control them "sick"? Well, if gambling and alchohol and shopping and.... can be sicknesses, then I guess so. As to the pedopheliacs that DON'T control their urges, I just call them rapists.

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Postby zapkitty » Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:32 am

This particular revival of the "gays = pedophiles" meme is a deliberate effort by core wingers to counter the repeal of DADT, the various gay marriage initiatives and other signs of rudimentary sanity returning to a society.

A couple of wingers recently tracked down just about the worst gathering that they could find and began shrieking loudly, sans evidence, that that particular aberration was what gays, liberals and academics wanted to inflict on society next... which is always a surprise to actual gays, liberals and academics :)

The wingers might as well have attended a NAMBLA convention and claimed that it was all a liberal plot... oh, wait, they've already tried that...

...and of course the winger base eats this baseless crap up and spews it out anywhere and everywhere they think it might take hold.

Just another group of people who can't adjust to the fact that another sad chapter in institutionalized bigotry in America is drawing to a close.

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Postby Betruger » Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:31 am

Which wingers?

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Postby KitemanSA » Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:41 am

zapkitty wrote:This particular revival of the "gays = pedophiles" meme is a deliberate effort by core wingers
In what way are the left wingers using this? :lol:

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Postby zapkitty » Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:46 pm

KitemanSA wrote:
zapkitty wrote:This particular revival of the "gays = pedophiles" meme is a deliberate effort by core wingers
In what way are the left wingers using this? :lol:


To make fun of the right wingers, of course... wait... you found some left wingers?

With the right pillorying as "too liberal" conservatives that espouse concepts that Reagan supported... well, I'd not thought that there was any room left for the left.

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Postby Diogenes » Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:58 pm

KitemanSA wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
KitemanSA wrote:All these things MAY be true, but the difference between "homophiliacs" and "pedophiliacs" is that the homo type is only legal between consenting individuals, and with the pedo type, children by definition can't consent to sexual activity. Pedophilia MAY be "normal" but statutory rape is still rape.
The concept of "consent" is a legal artifice. 50 years ago Homosexuals couldn't legally consent either.
IIUIC, homosexuals couldn't consent because they were considered mentally ill. Children aren't mentally ill, they are just young. And they, by definition, will always be the young.


The point is, what the law defines, the law may redefine. That is the entire point of the conference. To initiate a modification in society and subsequently the law.
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Postby Diogenes » Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:59 pm

Skipjack wrote:Pedophiles are sick. The kind of illness that curently does not know a cure.
They are like predators and they cant control their urges. The only way to deal with them is to keep them away from society.



And this is EXACTLY what was said about Homosexuals 50 years ago.
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Postby Diogenes » Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:14 pm

KitemanSA wrote:
Skipjack wrote:Pedophiles are sick. The kind of illness that curently does not know a cure.
They are like predators and they cant control their urges. The only way to deal with them is to keep them away from society.
To all things there are degrees. Some pedophiliacs control their urges and others do not. Are those that do control them "sick"? Well, if gambling and alchohol and shopping and.... can be sicknesses, then I guess so. As to the pedopheliacs that DON'T control their urges, I just call them rapists.


But the term is contingent upon the legal definition of statutory rape. As soon as the convention of professionals gets that changed, the term will not apply any more.

Then they will just be "consenting persons."
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Postby Diogenes » Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:30 pm

zapkitty wrote:This particular revival of the "gays = pedophiles" meme is a deliberate effort by core wingers to counter the repeal of DADT, the various gay marriage initiatives and other signs of rudimentary sanity returning to a society.

A couple of wingers recently tracked down just about the worst gathering that they could find and began shrieking loudly, sans evidence, that that particular aberration was what gays, liberals and academics wanted to inflict on society next... which is always a surprise to actual gays, liberals and academics :)

The wingers might as well have attended a NAMBLA convention and claimed that it was all a liberal plot... oh, wait, they've already tried that...

...and of course the winger base eats this baseless crap up and spews it out anywhere and everywhere they think it might take hold.

Just another group of people who can't adjust to the fact that another sad chapter in institutionalized bigotry in America is drawing to a close.


NAMBLA? What's that? Does it have anything to do with this?


The number one problem in Hollywood was, is and always will be pedophilia. It’s all done under the radar. . . But it’s the big secret.

There’s a lot of good people in this industry, but there’s also a lot of really, really sick, corrupt people in this industry. And there are people in this industry who have gotten away with it for so long that they feel they’re above the law, and that’s got to change. That’s got to stop.

I was surrounded by them when I was 14 years old. Surrounded. Literally. Didn’t even know it. It wasn’t until I was old enough to realize what they were and what they wanted and what they were about. . . till I went, ohmygod, they were everywhere like vultures.

There was a circle of older men that surrounded themselves around this group of kids. And they had power or connections to great power in the industry.


And the Video:

http://youtu.be/gEWS0kCQocs
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Postby Skipjack » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:24 pm

And this is EXACTLY what was said about Homosexuals 50 years ago.

There is a huge difference between two consenting adults of the same sexual orientation and an adult and a child that has no chance of consenting and is never asked for its consent anyway and that does definitely not share the sexual orientation with the sexual predator.


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