This picture is an important clue in a puzzle which I believe I have solved.
A picture is worth a thousand words.
A picture is worth a thousand words.
This picture is an important clue in a puzzle which I believe I have solved.
‘What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.’
— Lord Melbourne —
— Lord Melbourne —
A picture is worth a thou
You mean "A picture is worth a thou"?!
Enough already
I'll bite, what on earth are you talking about?
The leap from this picture to your accepting Obama is a natural born citizen still completely evades my understanding.
The leap from this picture to your accepting Obama is a natural born citizen still completely evades my understanding.
Re: Enough already
bcglorf wrote:I'll bite, what on earth are you talking about?
The leap from this picture to your accepting Obama is a natural born citizen still completely evades my understanding.
Do you see that Album lying on the edge of the chair? That Album is:
As that Album was released January 1, 1960, (according to this link.) the picture can be no older than that.
‘What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.’
— Lord Melbourne —
— Lord Melbourne —
Re: Enough already
I'm afraid I have no idea what the picture is supposed to be of. I have zero context here. A picture of a lamp, a chair and an album don't connect to the president for me in any way. Presumably it's related to Obama in some fashion???Diogenes wrote:bcglorf wrote:I'll bite, what on earth are you talking about?
The leap from this picture to your accepting Obama is a natural born citizen still completely evades my understanding.
Do you see that Album lying on the edge of the chair? That Album is:
As that Album was released January 1, 1960, (according to this link.) the picture can be no older than that.
Who knew chrismb was a jazz fan, let alone an artist? 
Actually, I would guess that the words on the wall say "Merry Christmas".
But there's a problem here: according to several online sources, Cuban Fire! was recorded (and presumably released) in 1956. There was a CD release in 1991 which also contained some tracks recorded in 1960, but those tracks weren't on the original vinyl release. A release date of 01/01/1960 indicates a lack of precision to me.
Does this have anything to do with Obama's alleged birthdate?
Actually, I would guess that the words on the wall say "Merry Christmas".
But there's a problem here: according to several online sources, Cuban Fire! was recorded (and presumably released) in 1956. There was a CD release in 1991 which also contained some tracks recorded in 1960, but those tracks weren't on the original vinyl release. A release date of 01/01/1960 indicates a lack of precision to me.
Does this have anything to do with Obama's alleged birthdate?
Temperature, density, confinement time: pick any two.
I wish. Bear with me. You MIGHT find this interesting. I'm trying to pull a Sherlock Holmes here.chrismb wrote:...unless this is a photo in the apartment of Chris(?), the artist who drew it a year before it was used, as he was getting ready to make his pitch to the record company to be the sleeve artist.
Are you taking something narcotic today, D?
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‘What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.’
— Lord Melbourne —
— Lord Melbourne —
By the way, I have just uncovered a photograph of Stan Kenton (with June Christy at his side) chatting with fellow Wichitan Stanley Armour Dunham. The caption describes the latter as an "unidentified man", but we all know who he is.
Temperature, density, confinement time: pick any two.
Re: Enough already
bcglorf wrote:
I'm afraid I have no idea what the picture is supposed to be of. I have zero context here. A picture of a lamp, a chair and an album don't connect to the president for me in any way. Presumably it's related to Obama in some fashion???
It is very important that the context be kept out of the image until what information can be gleaned from it is demonstrated. The Album establishes the picture's oldest possible date. 1-1-1960. This Next image will help get it a little closer.
Note the same lamp and Chair as in the earlier photo. Also that "Chri" on the Wall which Chrismb mentioned is a sign that Says "Christmas" with another sign saying "Merry" just above it.
‘What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.’
— Lord Melbourne —
— Lord Melbourne —
Re: Enough already
But the album was actually recorded and released in 1956...Diogenes wrote:bcglorf wrote:
I'm afraid I have no idea what the picture is supposed to be of. I have zero context here. A picture of a lamp, a chair and an album don't connect to the president for me in any way. Presumably it's related to Obama in some fashion???
It is very important that the context be kept out of the image until what information can be gleaned from it is demonstrated. The Album establishes the picture's oldest possible date. 1-1-1960. This Next image will help get it a little closer.
Note the same lamp and Chair as in the earlier photo. Also that "Chri" on the Wall which Chrismb mentioned is a sign that Says "Christmas" with another sign saying "Merry" just above it.
Ivy Matt wrote:By the way, I have just uncovered a photograph of Stan Kenton (with June Christy at his side) chatting with fellow Wichitan Stanley Armour Dunham. The caption describes the latter as an "unidentified man", but we all know who he is.
Hmmm.. I wasn't aware of that. Interesting.
‘What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.’
— Lord Melbourne —
— Lord Melbourne —
Re: Enough already
The Music was recorded in 1956, but this website (and at least one other.) says it was released January of 1960. Do you have a link to a website that claims the LP was released earlier?bcglorf wrote:
But the album was actually recorded and released in 1956...
Let us assume for the sake of argument that the picture is no older than 1960. There are other reasons for believing this is likely the case that I have not shown yet. We will come back to this later if necessary.
Assuming it's no older than 1960, what does the Christmas Tree and Presents tell us?
‘What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.’
— Lord Melbourne —
— Lord Melbourne —
Re: Enough already
Several:Diogenes wrote:The Music was recorded in 1956, but this website (and at least one other.) says it was released January of 1960. Do you have a link to a website that claims the LP was released earlier?bcglorf wrote:
But the album was actually recorded and released in 1956...
ebay
Billboard newspaper archive
The last is probably the final note needed, a September 1st, 1956 paper discussing the album. Just google Cuban Fire! - Capitol #731, Capitol records probably has a definitive release date for record #731 if you don't consider the paper reliable.
Obama was born in 1961, so whether this album was released in 1956 or 1960 is immaterial, if B. Obama or his parents are in the uncropped photo, if his mother is shown holding a baby it could be anyone's baby, including B. O. The age of the album could be 1 week post release to decades post release.
Now if B. O was born in 1955 and this photo showed him him or his pregnant mother, then there could be some speculation if he lied about his age or if has a older sibling, etc. But, even then, it would say nothing about his place of birth.
Or, alternately this could end up being a photoshop manipulation. I have seen one clumsy photoshoped (very obvious that B. O. was cropped out) image of him and his maternal grandparents presented by a birther blogger as 'proof' that Obama was not an American.
[EDIT] Having read in another thread that this picture may have been the reason that his birther position was abandoned,still seams weak. If there was a conspiracy to plant false birth cirtificate, newspaper articles, family and school photes, etc. There could be planted period objects that might be in a photo designed to provide a false reality. Perhaps it was the volume of improbably false data that overwhelmed the increasingly desperate and improbable conspiracy arguements.
Dan Tibbets
Dan Tibbets
Now if B. O was born in 1955 and this photo showed him him or his pregnant mother, then there could be some speculation if he lied about his age or if has a older sibling, etc. But, even then, it would say nothing about his place of birth.
Or, alternately this could end up being a photoshop manipulation. I have seen one clumsy photoshoped (very obvious that B. O. was cropped out) image of him and his maternal grandparents presented by a birther blogger as 'proof' that Obama was not an American.
[EDIT] Having read in another thread that this picture may have been the reason that his birther position was abandoned,still seams weak. If there was a conspiracy to plant false birth cirtificate, newspaper articles, family and school photes, etc. There could be planted period objects that might be in a photo designed to provide a false reality. Perhaps it was the volume of improbably false data that overwhelmed the increasingly desperate and improbable conspiracy arguements.
Dan Tibbets
Dan Tibbets
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