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The Ukraine connection for the engines the fat teenager is using on his rockets could be real. Clearly NK is getting help. However, the proposed route for the engines getting to NK from the Ukraine is via Russia. The other strong possibility is that China has been providing the designs, parts, and expertise. The same goes for them suddenly having a compact warhead for the missiles.

Your insistence that this is a Nazi conspiracy of Soros and Clinton is pure bullshit, as is the notion that the right wing demonstrators in Charlottesville were all paid Jewish actors, and that there are no Nazis lurking around this country. Darn, I had no idea that David Duke was Jewish!

I enjoyed Colbert's little chat with The Mooch last night. I think Scaramucci was probably being quite frank and honest. While admitting that Bannon probably is actually physically incapable of auto-fellatio, he also said he does not think the guy is actually a Nazi, etc, but that the intolerable point is that Bannon tolerated white supremacist, KKK, and neo-NAZI presence at Breitbart, doing nothing to counter or criticize their venomous lies. I believe it was that influence that has Trump in hot water this week, from not slamming that influence from the start.

But take a clue from your fearless leader: even Trump is now on the record calling them what they are, and soundly slamming them.

I think there is a really good chance, based on the articles and research done, that LFT sourced RD-250s via Russian linked Ukrainian sources. Note that there were hundreds produced and warehoused. One of the telling notes I saw was a minor comment on links to a small group of rocketry academics down the road from the factory in the Ukraine. They had access and knowhow. It would not surprise me if they were bought, either directly by LFT minions, or via Russian intermediaries. The evidence is fairly compelling. The Former Soviet culture is all about making a buck, and not giving a shit about implications. Russia Inc. (or probably more acurate Putin LLC) makes money off of two things Energy (Oil/Gas) and Arms. As the Europeans dial back energy purchases from Russia (Putin LLC), they are ramping up arms sales to make up the difference, while seeking other paths to sell energy. Russia is an economic house of cards, and probably arguably a form of Ponzi scheme, riding on the backs of its citizens.
Just my humble opinion.

"your insistence that this is a Nazi conspiracy of Soros and Clinton is pure bullshit, as is the notion that the right wing demonstrators in Charlottesville were all paid Jewish actors, and that there are no Nazis lurking around this country. Darn, I had no idea that David Duke was Jewish!"


Where exactly did I say they were Jewish????



Two N.Koreans were caught around that Ukraine factory before, they clearly had an interest in the place. Since Clinton gave ICBM tech to China, maybe they're the ones helping Lil' Kim.

https://consortiumnews.com/2015/06/12/u ... n-ukraine/


The violence was initiated by the left, the police were ordered to stand down by the mayor, and when the right wingers were ordered to disperse, they were told they could only do so through the Antifa crowd. What could possibly go wrong.

Hey, wait ... apparently Trump is as dumb as dumb as Kathy Griffin ...

After Charlottesville, Trump retweets — then deletes — image of train running over CNN reporter

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... fec556338c

Choff, I'm sorry if I saddled you with that story the Nazis are circulating that the right wing demonstrators were all hired Jewish actors. You never said that (tho' the claim has been made by the people you say don't exist). But I think you did say they were actors, and/or plants.

Tom Ligon wrote: I believe it was that influence that has Trump in hot water this week, from not slamming that influence from the start.

What has Trump in "hot water" is the continuous coup against him by the people who control the broadcasting infrastructure, which I now regard as a coalition between people who make a lot of money off of excessive government spending (such as GE) and the "Deep State" officials who are empowered by increasing government power. (Crony Capitalism)


They are trying to "Nixon" Trump, and because they own the broadcasting systems, they are having some degree of success.


Way past time for anti-trust suits to be launched against the Media companies and the internet companies. There is far too much power concentrated in those hands nowadays.

Tom Ligon wrote:
Choff, I'm sorry if I saddled you with that story the Nazis are circulating that the right wing demonstrators were all hired Jewish actors. You never said that (tho' the claim has been made by the people you say don't exist). But I think you did say they were actors, and/or plants.

So you are listening to what neo-Nazis say? What is wrong with you?


Funny thing though, i've been reading several claims that the organizer of the event was an Occupy Wall Street Obama supporter. That seems kind of strange, if it is in fact true. Of course the "Southern Poverty Law Center" is a pretty lunatic organization, so it's no telling if they are right about this.



But the National Socialist kooks and other left wing organizations are always making stupid noises about the Jooooos. Anyone paying heed to them is being foolish.

choff wrote:
Where exactly did I say they were Jewish????

There certainly seems to be a lot of "projection" going on around here lately. I don't recall you saying any such thing, but for some reason an accusation was launched against you.


Someone is insisting on "Painting with a broad brush", it seems. And here I thought pre-judging a person was considered to be wrong.

I will say that the whole thing in Charlottesville has PSYOP written all over it, and I'm of the opinion the Extreme Right were infiltrated by the FBI decades ago, think COINTELPRO.

ladajo wrote:I think there is a really good chance, based on the articles and research done, that LFT sourced RD-250s via Russian linked Ukrainian sources.
Just my humble opinion.

A lot of people have that same opinion, But the young gun backed down today. Just like his father and his grandfather. Next will be an anouncement of his glorious victory and compassion for the losers.

Diogenes wrote:

Tom Ligon wrote: I believe it was that influence that has Trump in hot water this week, from not slamming that influence from the start.

Way past time for anti-trust suits to be launched against the Media companies and the internet companies. There is far too much power concentrated in those hands nowadays.

In 1980 we had 60 ish broadcast companies owned by as many individuals following corporate guidance.
Now we have 6 major players.

choff wrote:I will say that the whole thing in Charlottesville has PSYOP written all over it, and I'm of the opinion the Extreme Right were infiltrated by the FBI decades ago, think COINTELPRO.

I don't know anything about these people, but i've heard a long running joke about them. Apparently every other one of them is a government informant trying to coax the others into doing things for which they can be arrested.

Anyone read "Bill the Galactic Hero" by Harry Harrison? He satirizes exactly this sort of circumstance, and does it brilliantly!


I just read an article earlier today that said in their heyday, these people only made up about 3% of the population, and the current best estimate of their numbers puts them at something like 0.003 % of the population.


I'm sure they are a sub section of the mentally ill portion of the nation. You might refer to them as "useful idiots."

paperburn1 wrote:

Diogenes wrote:

Tom Ligon wrote: I believe it was that influence that has Trump in hot water this week, from not slamming that influence from the start.

Way past time for anti-trust suits to be launched against the Media companies and the internet companies. There is far too much power concentrated in those hands nowadays.

In 1980 we had 60 ish broadcast companies owned by as many individuals following corporate guidance.
Now we have 6 major players.

And increasingly they have a common interests, which I perceive to be access to government contracts and more government spending. Also influence of policy, such as the H1B policy and easier trade regulations, and so forth.


I used to think the Liberals were nuts for constantly railing about "Corporations", but I am slowly being steered towards the opinion that maybe they had a point. "Free Enterprise" and "Capitalism" are just fine, so long as everyone has a level playing field, but when you have access and influence, it changes the system dynamics, and not in a good way.

paperburn1 wrote:In 1980 we had 60 ish broadcast companies owned by as many individuals following corporate guidance.
Now we have 6 major players.

And 5 of them apparently collude to tell the same Narrative. 6 major players wouldn't be so bad if they were independent.

Not Bill the galactic hero but

Wasp is a 1957 science fiction novel by English author Eric Frank Russell. Terry Pratchett (author of the Discworld series of fantasy books) stated that he "can't imagine a funnier terrorists' handbook." Wasp is generally considered Russell's best novel.[1]

The title of Wasp comes from the idea that the main character's actions and central purpose mimic that particular insect; just as something as small as a wasp can terrorise a much larger creature in control of a car to the point of causing a crash and killing the occupants, so the defeat of an enemy may be wrought via psychological and guerrilla warfare by a small, but deadly, protagonist in their midst.
This short story seems to be a playbook for what is happening now, all we have to do id fill in the characters with actor states.

So the question of the day:
If trump has Nazis sympathies would not supporting them be detrimental to his financial well being as most of his extended family is hard core Jewish?