mystery explosion at Iran's Fordow facility
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The source said a log on closed-circuit cameras installed by the regime to monitor the site’s three centrifuge chambers and two highly enriched uranium reserves gave this account:
On Jan 21, 14 members of the North Korean team and two military officers now stationed at Fordow along with Iranian scientists started the process of feeding uranium gas into the newly set-up cascades at 9:15 a.m. Tehran time
At 10:43 a.m., due to a drop in power pressure, system warning signs went off, but everything went back to normal after two minutes.
At 11:36 a.m., five explosions occurred concurrently in the centrifuge chambers, two explosions in the uranium reserve enclosures and a subsequent explosion in the main hallway close to the exit.
At the time of the explosions, a very bright red and purple light distorted the image and an extremely loud noise could be heard. Before the explosions knocked out the cameras, interior walls could be seen coming down within the centrifuge chambers. All the explosions seemed to have been initiated from the ceilings.
All cameras on the lowest floor (about 300 feet deep under a mountain) and the floor above it (about 250 feet deep) were knocked out, and only two cameras above the installation where security personnel are stationed were working.
Security forces immediately informed their superiors, who ordered them to remain in the monitoring room and avoid further communication with the outside world until counterintelligence forces arrived. Twenty-one personnel were gathered in a conference room to await further instruction.
Security forces were then told to close down all surrounding roads.
Approximately two hours after the explosions, counterintelligence agents arrived and, after interviewing personnel and reviewing tapes, initially concluded that explosives may have been placed in ceiling lamps with some kind of trigger mechanism controlled by a power voltage frequency.
The last images show eight personnel in anti-radiation clothing trying desperately to secure one of the rooms.
The regime believes the technology used with the explosives is unknown to their forces, the source said.
Iranian authorities fear that opening the site from the outside in a rescue mission could possibly release radiation and uranium gas or cause further explosions, which could contaminate thousands of people living nearby, the source said.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/new-details- ... 8h8iIO8.99
The source said a log on closed-circuit cameras installed by the regime to monitor the site’s three centrifuge chambers and two highly enriched uranium reserves gave this account:
On Jan 21, 14 members of the North Korean team and two military officers now stationed at Fordow along with Iranian scientists started the process of feeding uranium gas into the newly set-up cascades at 9:15 a.m. Tehran time
At 10:43 a.m., due to a drop in power pressure, system warning signs went off, but everything went back to normal after two minutes.
At 11:36 a.m., five explosions occurred concurrently in the centrifuge chambers, two explosions in the uranium reserve enclosures and a subsequent explosion in the main hallway close to the exit.
At the time of the explosions, a very bright red and purple light distorted the image and an extremely loud noise could be heard. Before the explosions knocked out the cameras, interior walls could be seen coming down within the centrifuge chambers. All the explosions seemed to have been initiated from the ceilings.
All cameras on the lowest floor (about 300 feet deep under a mountain) and the floor above it (about 250 feet deep) were knocked out, and only two cameras above the installation where security personnel are stationed were working.
Security forces immediately informed their superiors, who ordered them to remain in the monitoring room and avoid further communication with the outside world until counterintelligence forces arrived. Twenty-one personnel were gathered in a conference room to await further instruction.
Security forces were then told to close down all surrounding roads.
Approximately two hours after the explosions, counterintelligence agents arrived and, after interviewing personnel and reviewing tapes, initially concluded that explosives may have been placed in ceiling lamps with some kind of trigger mechanism controlled by a power voltage frequency.
The last images show eight personnel in anti-radiation clothing trying desperately to secure one of the rooms.
The regime believes the technology used with the explosives is unknown to their forces, the source said.
Iranian authorities fear that opening the site from the outside in a rescue mission could possibly release radiation and uranium gas or cause further explosions, which could contaminate thousands of people living nearby, the source said.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/new-details- ... 8h8iIO8.99
Unless there was a secondary explosion, what is described does not sound like an event that would be noticed 3 miles away, no?
Then this seems contradictory:
Then this seems contradictory:
andApproximately two hours after the explosions, counterintelligence agents arrived and, after interviewing personnel and reviewing tapes, initially concluded that explosives may have been placed in ceiling lamps with some kind of trigger mechanism controlled by a power voltage frequency.
Maybe I am misunderstanding how the counterintelligence personnel did their investigation.Iranian authorities fear that opening the site from the outside in a rescue mission could possibly release radiation and uranium gas or cause further explosions, which could contaminate thousands of people living nearby, the source said.
Counting the days to commercial fusion. It is not that long now.
http://www.businessinsider.com/massive- ... ity-2013-1
Lots of links.
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That might have ended the story there, but The Times of London's Israel correspondent Sheera Frenkel is confirming the incident through her own independent sources:
An explosion is believed to have damaged Iran’s Fordow nuclear facility, which is being used to enrich uranium, Israeli intelligence officials have told The Times. Sources in Tel Aviv said yesterday that they thought the explosion happened last week. The Israeli Government is investigating reports that it led to extensive structural damage and 200 workers had been trapped inside.
One Israeli official said: “We are still in the preliminary stages of understanding what happened and how significant it is.” He did not know, he added, if the explosion was “sabotage or accident”, and refused to comment on reports that Israeli aircraft were seen near the facility at the time of the explosion.
(Update 01/29) Frenkel followed the Times piece up with reporting for McClatchy where she writes Israeli officials now estimate Iran won't be capable of building a nuclear weapon until 2015 or 2016, several years farther out than previously estimated.
Lots of links.
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That might have ended the story there, but The Times of London's Israel correspondent Sheera Frenkel is confirming the incident through her own independent sources:
An explosion is believed to have damaged Iran’s Fordow nuclear facility, which is being used to enrich uranium, Israeli intelligence officials have told The Times. Sources in Tel Aviv said yesterday that they thought the explosion happened last week. The Israeli Government is investigating reports that it led to extensive structural damage and 200 workers had been trapped inside.
One Israeli official said: “We are still in the preliminary stages of understanding what happened and how significant it is.” He did not know, he added, if the explosion was “sabotage or accident”, and refused to comment on reports that Israeli aircraft were seen near the facility at the time of the explosion.
(Update 01/29) Frenkel followed the Times piece up with reporting for McClatchy where she writes Israeli officials now estimate Iran won't be capable of building a nuclear weapon until 2015 or 2016, several years farther out than previously estimated.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
In response, Tehran's concrete industry has developed Ultra-High Performance Concrete (UHPC) doped with quartz and poured under the country's own high-demand blend of international codes.
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They mixed in sand? How novel.
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They mixed in sand? How novel.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
"Previous assessments were built on a set of data that has since shifted," said one Israeli intelligence officer, who spoke to McClatchy only on the condition that he not be identified.
Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/01/28/1 ... ogram.html
Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/01/28/1 ... ogram.html
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
From a distance?mvanwink5 wrote:Unless there was a secondary explosion, what is described does not sound like an event that would be noticed 3 miles away, no?
Then this seems contradictory:andApproximately two hours after the explosions, counterintelligence agents arrived and, after interviewing personnel and reviewing tapes, initially concluded that explosives may have been placed in ceiling lamps with some kind of trigger mechanism controlled by a power voltage frequency.Maybe I am misunderstanding how the counterintelligence personnel did their investigation.Iranian authorities fear that opening the site from the outside in a rescue mission could possibly release radiation and uranium gas or cause further explosions, which could contaminate thousands of people living nearby, the source said.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/200 ... tlook.html
Iran is not expanding oil output via new reserves nor by expanding on existing reserves in an amount that is above domestic use. Further, their subsidized use of natural gas puts the cheapest form of rejuvenation in peril. This isn't Socialist... its asinine. Even Socialists *try* to understand industrial production cycles. This? A rare form of seppuku. Take all the regulators and sensors off your servo, feed in a 'dirty' power stream and put a large delay on any control on the system or, no control for balance and see if it can stay in place. Something has got to give. In Iran it will be the refineries which are the most complex part of a complex system. Probably not with a bang, just a sigh of relief that they aren't going to be abused any more.
The Cartels are actually only being set up to meet demand at a given price point. Their goal is to control the price point by their own supply of product. They were much more powerful when they had less competition, but their overall part of global production has been in decline for some years. And they have to be in this wonderful bind of having to either 'cover' for Iran or increase quotas and curse Iran. At some point they realize that Iran is no longer an 'Exporting' Nation that is reliable. Cartels love reliable environments and seek to manipulate those. Throw a spanner in the works and they seize up and fly apart. The question is: which spanner gets them first? Iran or Canada? My guess is Iran, based on spin-up time for the Canadian fields, and the rate of increase of Iranian problems.
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Note the date on this. A quick re-read shows he had some things right and others not so much.
Oil shales he got very right.
Iran is not expanding oil output via new reserves nor by expanding on existing reserves in an amount that is above domestic use. Further, their subsidized use of natural gas puts the cheapest form of rejuvenation in peril. This isn't Socialist... its asinine. Even Socialists *try* to understand industrial production cycles. This? A rare form of seppuku. Take all the regulators and sensors off your servo, feed in a 'dirty' power stream and put a large delay on any control on the system or, no control for balance and see if it can stay in place. Something has got to give. In Iran it will be the refineries which are the most complex part of a complex system. Probably not with a bang, just a sigh of relief that they aren't going to be abused any more.
The Cartels are actually only being set up to meet demand at a given price point. Their goal is to control the price point by their own supply of product. They were much more powerful when they had less competition, but their overall part of global production has been in decline for some years. And they have to be in this wonderful bind of having to either 'cover' for Iran or increase quotas and curse Iran. At some point they realize that Iran is no longer an 'Exporting' Nation that is reliable. Cartels love reliable environments and seek to manipulate those. Throw a spanner in the works and they seize up and fly apart. The question is: which spanner gets them first? Iran or Canada? My guess is Iran, based on spin-up time for the Canadian fields, and the rate of increase of Iranian problems.
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Note the date on this. A quick re-read shows he had some things right and others not so much.
Oil shales he got very right.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
I saw a report last year around the stuxnet thread that Russian advisors to Iran complained to the Kremlin the Iranian Nuclear Engineers had a disregard for safety and human life, contrary to recent reports they are very professional, could be the N. Koreans are the sloppy ones on safety.
Possible build up of hydrogen gas? Concentrates at the top of the ceilings until the wiring for the lights set it off. They can save the '57 MOP for Iran's Anniversay of the Revolution parade.
Possible build up of hydrogen gas? Concentrates at the top of the ceilings until the wiring for the lights set it off. They can save the '57 MOP for Iran's Anniversay of the Revolution parade.
CHoff
Hydrogen gas would be contradicted by the color of the flames reported. But if the reports are bogus? Or mistaken?choff wrote:I saw a report last year around the stuxnet thread that Russian advisors to Iran complained to the Kremlin the Iranian Nuclear Engineers had a disregard for safety and human life, contrary to recent reports they are very professional, could be the N. Koreans are the sloppy ones on safety.
Possible build up of hydrogen gas? Concentrates at the top of the ceilings until the wiring for the lights set it off. They can save the '57 MOP for Iran's Anniversay of the Revolution parade.
IAEA backs Iran's denial of Fordow explosion
http://www.jpost.com/IranianThreat/News ... ?id=301439
I thought the picture with the black smudge was dodgy.
But who knows?
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
As I understand, that was his standard question when folks at MIT brought things to him.Diogenes wrote:kcdodd wrote:I just consider the whole thing a waste of bright people.
I am reminded of what the Great Physicist I.I.Rabbi said when asked to look at an idea.
"How many Nazis will it kill?"
The development of atomic power, though it could confer unimaginable blessings on mankind, is something that is dreaded by the owners of coal mines and oil wells. (Hazlitt)
What I want to do is to look up C. . . . I call him the Forgotten Man. (Sumner)
What I want to do is to look up C. . . . I call him the Forgotten Man. (Sumner)