No expertise is required. Proof is sufficient.NotAPhysicist wrote:And if we have a genuine crisis, environmental or otherwise, what on level of evidence or expertise is considered enough to validate the crisis as real?
To give you couple of examples:
Asteroid hits earth causing global winter. The crater is sufficient evidence.
Sun gets warmer (or cooler). Measurements of the spectrum of the Sun.
Solar system sailing in or out of a dust clout. Satellite measurements of global dimming.
AGW that says human produced CO2 causes warming is a hypothesis that cannot be practically proved in the positive but its predictions can be validated.
Here is how:
Level of warming proportional to CO2 production - FAIL. Temperatures stay leveled since 1998 and CO2 levels in atmosphere increased by roughly 30%. Similar about post WWII period when scientists predicted ice age coming while CO2 was increasing.
CO2 having the same effect on both poles. If hypothesis is true they will be both melting - FAIL. Arctic is melting while Antarctica is growing at record levels.
Temperatures on other planets in Solar system, especially Mars not following the same pattern as Earth. FAIL to deliver.
Sea level raising - real estate crashing in coastal areas. None observed.
Speaking about the "catastrophe" . If AGW was real it wold be definitely beneficial. Before the entire science area was heavily politicized the medieval warming was called the Medieval Climate OPTIMUM. It could get way warmer and still be fine. There were times when hippos lived in England. Actually AGW postulates that the warming will be greatest at the poles. If so then the temperature gradient between poles and equator that drives extreme weather would be reduced, reducing the occurrence of extreme weather events.
The increased CO2 in atmosphere is definitely beneficial as it increases crop harvest levels and causes global greening since plants can get enough CO2 sooner allowing them to close its stomata and conserve water therefore surviving better in dryer weather or expending to areas that were too dry before.