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EMC2 news

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:27 pm
by crowberry

Re: EMC2 news

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:42 pm
by mvanwink5

Re: EMC2 news

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:32 pm
by Skipjack
Seeing how hard it is for other fusion startups to secure funding, I have little hope that Park will find the full 30 million USD. IMHO, they have shown less than companies like Helion, who need less funding to achieve their goals.
Still, it is good to see that the Navy is still helping them with the transition. I do however not quite understand why the navy does not keep fully funding them, if they believed it was going to work.

Re: EMC2 news

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:59 pm
by mvanwink5

Re: EMC2 news

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:07 am
by ladajo
I am glad that this interview was done. It was overdue.
Individual funding from inside the U.S. is a low probability. It is more likely to be external.
However, there are other options, and they are being looked at.
I remain optimistic from a funding and technology perspective.
EMC2 remains the most likely candidate in my book. Too date not the best marketed, but under the hood, the best option.

I would caution you all that this next phase of EMC2's existence may be murky and a little turbulent from your perspective.
Rest assured that there is a strategy and corresponding plan in place, with reasoned branch plans developed as well.
Be patient.

Re: EMC2 news

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:27 am
by Skipjack

Re: EMC2 news

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:21 am
by mvanwink5
"You might know something I dont know."

Hence, my deference to Ladajo's view on funding... He seems to think it is going to be funded one way or the other (as far as I can read his comments). As far as bets go, until a big machine is made and run we might as well be at the track. Plasma is the devil's playground.

Re: EMC2 news

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:38 am
by ladajo
Yes, I think it will be funded one way or another.

And yes, plasma is the devil's playground, and this is why Park is the best bet.
He has done much more that others to manage the playground.
The main point I think you are all missing is that Jaeyoung needs one cycle to prove viability.
The others are still not sure if they will or will not be viable.
Jaeyoung knows what to check, and how to do it. None of the others actually do.

Be patient.
I sense a possible alignment in the Force coming. Not certain, but possible.

Re: EMC2 news

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:30 am
by Skipjack

Re: EMC2 news

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:35 am
by Enginerd
Perhaps DoD might be able to provide some funding?

Re: EMC2 news

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:48 am
by Giorgio
Finally some good news. My only concern is when/if they will actually share more results once they get founded.

Re: EMC2 news

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:58 pm
by ladajo

Re: EMC2 news

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:41 pm
by mvanwink5
Tri Alpha's latest machine results were impressive on plasma stability, which were that they showed they could sustain spheromak stability for as long as they ran their experiment. So, scaling is next for Tri Apha also. If I had one real world natural phenomena to point to for belief that TriAlpha, Helion, and GF (their issue is compressing a stable spheromak, with corresponding temperature increase - a snag) will succeed, it is the existence of ball lightning phenomena. But that belief does not necessarily imply belief in a final practical fusion reactor, which requires pushing the spheromak to a commercial conclusion. For the final complete success (once funded - and Navy continuing to provide sustaining funds until $30 mill project finance is truly encouraging), I am inclined to bet on EMC2.

Re: EMC2 news

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:29 pm
by D Tibbets
Just to beat an old horse, all four approaches mentioned (and perhaps others including Dense Plasma Focus and Z pinch) have shown promising advances in the physics. As such, the competition should be heating up. Meanwhile, the political, economic and technical inertia of the tokamak approach of ITER continues drag along. Even some tokamak variations and stellorators may be gaining momentum over the ITER. Will the DOE wake up?

Dan Tibbets

Re: EMC2 news

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:57 pm
by Skipjack