LENR Is Real

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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby Giorgio » Wed Nov 25, 2015 2:56 pm

A society of dogmas is a dead society.

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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby ladajo » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:05 pm

How many science and engineering degree granting institutions existed in 1865 in the U.S.?
Edison took Chemistry at Cooper Union 1875-1879, however...
I'll save you the trouble: Not many. Of the estimated 200 colleges servicing 32 million people in the U.S. at the time, the vast majority supported Theologically based Liberal Arts curriculums. Technical (non-agricultural, interestingly based in agricultural land-grant institutions for the most part) was just beginning to pick up momentum, and was in reaction to the now ending industrial revolution (having hit its limits - so to speak). This laid the ground for the soon to come technological revolution exploding across the U.S. post Civil War.

Faraday was educated in physics by John Tatum, and chemistry by Sir Humphry Davy. Davy then hired Faraday on as a lab assistant in 1813 (and defacto graduate student). This in turn lead to Faraday spending his adult life at the Royal Institute, where eventually he became a Professor of Chemistry.

So your point is what again?
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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby paperburn1 » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:34 pm

And Edison contrary to popular believe was not a great inventor. His genius was he was one of the first inventors to apply the principles of mass production and large-scale teamwork to the process of invention, and because of that, he is often credited with the creation of the first industrial research laboratory. He hired many engineers and inventors at the time and give them a steady paycheck in turn for them turning over thier ideas and developments to him so he could patent them. Although one could consider the quite brilliant because it never been done on the scale that he had done it before, in essence he was the world's first manager of an idea lab. Think of something like skunk works from Lockheed Martin . Or Oak Ridge .or White Sands. So the comparison isn't even close.
Look at some of the names that worked for him.
Edward Goodrich Acheson - chemist, worked at Menlo Park 1880-1884
William Symes Andrews - started at the Menlo Park machine shop 1879
Charles Batchelor - "chief experimental assistant"
John I. Beggs - manager of Edison Illuminating Company in New York, 1886
William Kennedy Dickson - joined Menlo Park in 18823, worked on the motion picture camera
Justus B. Entz - joined Edison Machine Works in 1887
Reginald Fessenden - worked at the Edison Machine Works in 1886
Henry Ford - engineer Edison Illuminating Company Detroit, Michigan, 1891-1899
William Joseph Hammer - started as laboratory assistant Menlo Park in 1879
Miller Reese Hutchison - inventor of hearing aid
Edward Hibberd Johnson - started in 1909, chief engineer at West Orange laboratory 1912-1918
Samuel Insull - started in 1881, rose to become VP of General Electric (1892) then President of Chicago Edison
Kunihiko Iwadare - joined Edison Machine Works in 1887
Francis Jehl - laboratory assistant Menlo Park 1879-1882
Arthur E. Kennelly - engineer, experimentalist at West Orange laboratory 1887-1894
John Kruesi - started 1872, was head machinist, at Newark, Menlo Park, Edison Machine Works
Lewis Howard Latimer - hired 1884 as a draftsman, continued working for General Electric
John W. Lieb - worked at the Edison Machine Works in 1881
Thomas Commerford Martin - electrical engineer, worked at Menlo Park 1877–1879
George F. Morrison - started at Edison Lamp Works 1882
Edwin Stanton Porter - joined the Edison Manufacturing Company 1899
Frank J. Sprague - Joined Menlo Park 1883, became known as the "Father of Electric Traction".
Nikola Tesla - electrical engineer and inventor, worked at the Edison Machine Works in 1884
Francis Robbins Upton - mathematician/physicist, joined Menlo Park 1878
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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby parallel » Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:47 pm

To the twits that failed to understand the point.
Georgio tried to make the point that Fabiani could not be believed because he didn't have the right piece of parchment. Others, and probably him too, as he is so arrogant, have tried the same ploy against Rossi. Only trolls, who have never done anything significant themselves, waste space on such nonsense.

Re Edison, Wiki says. "In school, the young Edison's mind often wandered, and his teacher, the Reverend Engle, was overheard calling him "addled". This ended Edison's three months of official schooling." If you bothered to read the rest you would discover he did actually invent the phonograph.

Re Faraday. Wiki says. "Although Faraday received little formal education, he was one of the most influential scientists in history." snip
"The young Michael Faraday, who was the third of four children, having only the most basic school education, had to educate himself.[9] At fourteen he became the apprentice to George Riebau, a local bookbinder and bookseller in Blandford Street"
"Faraday subsequently sent Davy a three-hundred-page book based on notes that he had taken during these lectures. Davy's reply was immediate, kind, and favourable. In 1813, when Davy damaged his eyesight in an accident with nitrogen trichloride, he decided to employ Faraday as an assistant. "
"In the class-based English society of the time, Faraday was not considered a gentleman. When Davy set out on a long tour of the continent in 1813–15, his valet did not wish to go. Instead, Faraday went as Davy's scientific assistant, and was asked to act as Davy's valet until a replacement could be found in Paris. Faraday was forced to fill the role of valet as well as assistant throughout the trip. Davy's wife, Jane Apreece, refused to treat Faraday as an equal (making him travel outside the coach, eat with the servants, etc.), "

So you are completely wrong and just demonstrate your unwarranted adulation of a piece of parchment - again.

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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby paperburn1 » Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:59 pm

Re Edison, Wiki says. "In school, the young Edison's mind often wandered, and his teacher, the Reverend Engle, was overheard calling him "addled". This ended Edison's three months of official schooling." If you bothered to read the rest you would discover he did actually invent the phonograph.

But it was Emile Berliner that made it usable for the common man and it was not until after Victors work was the Edison phonograph able to be as easy to use.
Edison had thousands of patents, His genius was he was one of the first inventors to apply the principles of mass production and large-scale teamwork to the process of invention. as I stated before.
But in your intense defense of Rossi it seems you missed my point. which was... never mind you would just not get it.
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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby Axil » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:32 pm

Any one man no matter how ingenious can't break through the paradyn barrier to get his ideas into everyday life. Neither Tesla or Edison could do it own their own. They both were pawns in the great game of the 20th century. It took the power, money, greed, and business savvy of J. P. Morgan to setup the first great electrical company, General Electric, which spread the new electrical revolution around the world.

Morgan got the patents for the alternating current technology from Testa for a pittance and Tesla died a pauper.The board of Edison General Electric decided to adopt AC power, and dropped Edison's name; the company was now called "General Electric." Edison was then out of the game. He would refuse to set foot in any General Electric plants for the next 30 years, but his ability to reinvent himself matched his scientific prowess. Edison had to let the great inventions of his early life go, taken away from him by others. But in the second half of his life he would invent the first motion picture camera, improve his phonograph, and become America's first entertainment mogul. "People will forget," he stated with typical bravado, "that my name ever was connected with anything electrical."

The job that will be most important will be left to the money men that Rossi is working for. These men will do battle with the powers that be for the future of humankind. If they are smart enough, greedy enough, powerful enough, and savvy enough to get LENR into our lives, then Rossi's work and his name will not be forgotten like so many other betrayed men of genius down through the years.

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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby Giorgio » Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:20 am

A society of dogmas is a dead society.

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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby RERT » Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:40 pm

Since the topic is 'LENR is Real' not just 'Rossi acts like a fraud', I thought this was interesting.

http://news.newenergytimes.net/2015/11/ ... continues/

Mitsubishi Heavy, Toyota, Nissan are pretty real...

R.

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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby Giorgio » Thu Nov 26, 2015 3:18 pm

A society of dogmas is a dead society.

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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby parallel » Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:08 pm


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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby Giorgio » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:03 pm

A society of dogmas is a dead society.

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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby parallel » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:37 pm

Georgio,

You are a libelous troll. Rossi has a valid PhD from Universita degli Studi di Milano. His degree is Dr. of Philosophy as were all advanced degrees at one time. The subject of his thesis in relativity is hardly “humanities” no matter what the name of the place.
http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article ... _Milan.pdf
(Google: the graduation exam in Philosophy with a hundred and ten votes of one hundred and ten achieving the qualificia academic doctorate degree in Philosophy. This certificate is niascia on plain paper, on application. is permitted by law)

Apart from school studies Rossi learnt how to work metal working in his father’s metal working business. Pity that so few Western engineers know how to do this.

That you fail to follow what I wrote no surprise. You appear to be an idiot. Are you still a student that you know so little of the real world? If you want to joint the other mindless trolls I will probably ignore you in the future. This is just a waste of time.

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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby paperburn1 » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:10 am

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Why is the seal different? first look at the letterhead seal then look at the building on the Rossi document/ they do not match
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Not saying fraud just curious.
As for the "creatures that emit pure light" that may just be a translation error of slang and I would worry much about that statment
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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby Giorgio » Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:02 am

A society of dogmas is a dead society.

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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby Giorgio » Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:31 am

A society of dogmas is a dead society.


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