LENR Is Real

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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby ladajo » Wed May 27, 2015 8:26 pm

Axil wrote:Now, Rossi is just a hired hand. Tom
 Darden calls the shots.

http://infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/ ... erview.pdf


So you must also know that Darden's Partner, JT Vaugn recently observed that Rossi is not credible to government investigators...

http://freeenergyscams.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/NCDHHS-Report.pdf

and, that even Franck Acland (the nutjob) is trying to put a positive spin on it...

http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/02/05/statement-from-industrial-heat-regarding-state-inspections/

Once again, Rossi is full of shit. Maybe Florida BRC should pay him another visit, since he is apparently back in FL doing what he told them he isn't.
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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby ScottL » Wed May 27, 2015 10:37 pm

Don't really care who owns it or is in charge of what. Rossi had his chance, investors had theirs. Classic case of vaporware...

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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby Giorgio » Thu May 28, 2015 4:35 am

The last three pages of this thread are going down in history as the most funny I read in the last few years.
I spilled my cup of cappuccino due to the laughter while I was reading Rossi reply, it was really priceless.

I am wondering if I should i send my shirt to laundry or to Dr.(?) Rossi....... maybe he can use the cappuccino stains on it as a Rorschach test to help him to better understand and tune the eCat!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby Ivy Matt » Thu May 28, 2015 5:21 am

Axil wrote:I have no case to make. The Rossi reactor is close to release. It will be the first of many new designs. The Chinese manufacturing deal to produce the Rossi reactor is in place. The E-Cat production in China is being setup. The world will have to cope with LENR on it own terms. China will disrupt the energy industry world wide.

Do you have any citations for the above claims? I might buy the last one, if you're talking about dumping solar panels on the world market or going ahead with research and development of LFTRs.

Axil wrote:Now, Rossi is just a hired hand. Tom
 Darden calls the shots.

http://infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/ ... erview.pdf

I think you posted the wrong link. This one has Darden essentially saying he's happy to just let the scientists do what they do, and offer whatever support they need, in the hope that something might come out of their research.

It also has Darden saying he thinks the isotopic evidence is the most compelling evidence he's seen. :D
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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby JoeP » Thu May 28, 2015 1:56 pm

Ivy Matt wrote:It also has Darden saying he thinks the isotopic evidence is the most compelling evidence he's seen. :D


Well he is right about that. That is what would be a slam-dunk for Rossi's machine doing something very interesting, even if the effect doesn't produce energy in excess of input... if the ash analysis was likely performed honestly.

However, the paper explained that Rossi (and witnessed by one member of the team...my guess is Levi) inserted and removed the fuel/ash at the beginning and the end of the test. Simple slight-of-hand trick...and wasn't Rossi shown to have bought some samples with the matching isotope as the so-called ash?

That invalidates the isotopic as evidence of nuclear effects, as it injects enough doubt. It also amazes me that the test team would allow this since ongoing critique of Rossi's machines has been his hands-on involvement with each test or demo. To accept the last test as proof of something is not scientific or objective.

Maybe Darden has other samples untouched by Rossi with the same results. I haven't bothered to read or view his comments, however, so I don't know of that is the case.

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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby GIThruster » Thu May 28, 2015 2:49 pm

JoeP wrote:That invalidates the isotopic as evidence of nuclear effects, as it injects enough doubt. It also amazes me that the test team would allow this since ongoing critique of Rossi's machines has been his hands-on involvement with each test or demo. To accept the last test as proof of something is not scientific or objective.

The issue here is not properly "validity" but rather "veracity". The reason we require replication by an appropriately independent source, is to address just this issue. Note that Rossi is in this, not doing bad science. It is not his place to supply replication. That is the task of the broader scientific community. So what we're really left with is not a complaint about Rossi's science, but an observation of one reason why we need independent replication in order to meet the veracity requirement.

BTW I should note that when this broke a couple or three weeks ago, that Rossi was supposedly generating commercial grade power, I immediately contacted NASA's point man on emergent energy technology and he was as always very grateful for the lead. I'm sure NASA is all over this and that is whom should be doing independent replication. NASA and of course, DOE. We might complain this would be a waste of time, but with claims of commercial power production, we really should investigate if for no other reason, to prosecute against any fraudulent claims. And you know. . .what if this is against all odds, what Rossi claims? It deserves an investigation, IMHO.
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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby Axil » Thu May 28, 2015 3:06 pm

Dr. Parkhomov has replicated Rossi's Hot cat at least once with a COP of 3.5. Over this last weakend, a test of a fueled and and unfueled reactior wired in series was conducted where the fueled reactor was 100C hotter than the unfueld reactor before its heater coil failed. Here is the data for that run...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1389964837

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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby GIThruster » Thu May 28, 2015 3:17 pm

I'm not familiar with Dr. Parkhomov's credentials. Can you point us?
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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby Axil » Thu May 28, 2015 3:37 pm

GIThruster wrote:I'm not familiar with Dr. Parkhomov's credentials. Can you point us?



see

http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/12/27/lu ... parkhomov/

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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby pbelter » Thu May 28, 2015 5:55 pm

On the Nuclear Mechanisms Underlying the Heat Production by the E-Cat

Norman D. Cook, Andrea Rossi
(Submitted on 6 Apr 2015 (v1), last revised 10 Apr 2015 (this version, v2

http://arxiv.org/abs/1504.01261

We discuss the isotopic abundances found in the E-Cat reactor with regard to the nuclear mechanisms responsible for excess heat. We argue that a major source of energy is a reaction between the first excited-state of Li-7 and a proton, followed by the breakdown of Be-8 into two alphas with high kinetic energy, but without gamma radiation. The unusual property of the Li-7 isotope that allows this reaction is similar to the property that underlies the Mossbauer effect: the presence of unusually low-lying excited states in stable, odd-Z and/or odd-N nuclei. We use the lattice version of the independent-particle model (IPM) of nuclear theory to show how the geometrical structure of isotopes indicate nuclear reactions that are not predicted in the conventional version of the IPM. Finally, we speculate on similar mechanisms that may be involved in other low-energy nuclear reactions (LENR).

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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby Axil » Thu May 28, 2015 6:58 pm

Alan Goldwater of MFMP just announced that he will start another GlowStick experiment tonight at 1:00 o'clock (GMT) (23:00 UTC).

For more information visit:
http://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.p ... f-May-GMT/

We will provide updates and a summary page with stream and chat for you!

Your LENR Forum Team

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The live run can be found here...

https://plus.google.com/events/crh3vtli ... 5ahc60ekgc
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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby Axil » Thu May 28, 2015 9:57 pm

GIThruster wrote:I'm not familiar with Dr. Parkhomov's credentials. Can you point us?



Dr. Parjhomov is a tenured physics professor at the Lomonosov Moscow State University. He may be retired. Here are his featured publications at ResearchGate:

Article: Deviations from Beta Radioactivity Exponential Drop

Alexander G. Parkhomov

Article: An Analysis of Apparent r-Mode Oscillations in Solar Activity, the Solar Diameter, the Solar Neutrino Flux, and Nuclear Decay Rates, with Implications Concerning the Solar Internal Structure and Rotation, and Neutrino Processes

P. A. Sturrock, L. Bertello, E. Fischbach, D. Javorsek II, J. H. Jenkins, A. Kosovichev, A. G. Parkhomov

Journal of Modern Physics 01/2011; 2(11):1310-1317.

Article: Power Spectrum Analysis of LMSU (Lomonosov Moscow State University) Nuclear Decay-Rate Data: Further Indication of r-Mode Oscillations in an Inner Solar Tachocline

Peter A. Sturrock, Alexander G. Parkhomov, Ephraim Fischbach, Jere H. Jenkins

Astroparticle Physics 11/2012; 42.

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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby pbelter » Thu May 28, 2015 11:39 pm

Parkhomov seems to have a number of published papers

Here is one on radioactivity

http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperInfor ... Wejas9VhBc

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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby Giorgio » Fri May 29, 2015 2:56 am

Axil wrote:Dr. Parkhomov has replicated Rossi's Hot cat at least once with a COP of 3.5.

He could not have possibly replicated it because no specifications nor data nor a detailed explanation of the reaction medium has ever been released to allow a process replication by anyone.
Hence, whatever he is doing and whatever results he is getting (be them real or not) has little to nothing to share with the eCat.
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Re: LENR Is Real

Postby Axil » Fri May 29, 2015 3:26 am

Giorgio wrote:
Axil wrote:Dr. Parkhomov has replicated Rossi's Hot cat at least once with a COP of 3.5.

He could not have possibly replicated it because no specifications nor data nor a detailed explanation of the reaction medium has ever been released to allow a process replication by anyone.
Hence, whatever he is doing and whatever results he is getting (be them real or not) has little to nothing to share with the eCat.


The replicators of the Hot cat get their information and insights from the Lagano test report

http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/wp- ... Submit.pdf


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