Fusion Deception

[hanelyp]

Plasma lifetime is minutia. Fusors have operated plasmas for far longer than 60 seconds by continually pumping in energy. Energy confinement time and density are relevant.

[JoeP]

Yes, and stated: how right is thinking that expert without quotes with Kiteman nick.

Wha???

Man. This is almost sig-worthy.

Anyone remember playing around with the Eliza program back in the day? Occasionally, it spewed stuff like that.

[ladajo]

I loved Eliza! I spent many hours re-writing the code and mechanisms for fun. It made for some really funny interactions!
God I miss BASIC. Clunky but fun.

[KitemanSA]

So, is this final proof that Joey is a chatterbot?

[Joseph Chikva]

Don't bother folk, Joey just can't get it.

It is called a "breakthrough" because the maker had to break through the accumulated mass of wrong thinking by all the "experts" in the field.

SEE?

Really folks, he is too emotionally involved to ever get the point you are trying to make. Don't waste your time.

emotionally?

[Joseph Chikva]

Plasma lifetime is minutia. Fusors have operated plasmas for far longer than 60 seconds by continually pumping in energy. Energy confinement time and density are relevant.

I do not know what density plasma fusors were operated longer than 60 seconds, but TOKAMAKs keep but:

The ITER hybrid scenario aims to exploit non-inductive current drive to enable burn times in excess of 1000 s. To achieve this, and optimize fusion performance, requires high βN (the plasma pressure normalized to a stability scaling) and energy confinement equal to or greater than that predicted for the baseline scenario. This paper discusses results from the JET candidate hybrid scenario, where βN,MHD ≤ 3.6 plasmas have been produced. Despite a different initial phase, confinement relevant plasma parameters evolve rapidly towards those of equivalent ELMy H-modes and are well described by IPB98(y, 2). In contrast to previous ELMy H-mode studies, a dedicated β scan experiment in the JET hybrid candidate scenario shows a strong negative dependence of global confinement on βN. Analysis indicates that the core transport remains consistent with weakly dependent electrostatic transport, whilst the edge confinement decreases strongly with increasing βN. By combining global confinement data from ASDEX Upgrade, DIII-D and JET hybrid scenario discharges, a multi-machine database is produced. In contrast to the JET case, confinement in ASDEX Upgrade and DIII-D is shown to be inconsistent with IPB98(y, 2) and alternative dependences are explored.

[Joseph Chikva]

So, is this final proof that Joey is a chatterbot?

So, it is final proof that you do not know what you talk about.
"This is not TOKAMAK. this is not TOKAMAK" say people living in virtual reality and sacredly trusting in miracles that Governments of top 7 countries, thousands PhD make worse that one unsuccessful inventor of wrong concept of again TOKAMAK when tried to get money from pornomaganat. When he could not, only then Polywell concept was born which goes by changing of wire grid cathod by virtual one. But unlike virtual cathod wire grid is absolutely stable.

And who is the bot, constantly repeating the same fairy tale popular in the seventies of last century and unconfirmed since then about immunity of convex fields against instabilities?

[JoeP]

wth is a pornomaganat?

[Joseph Chikva]

wth is a pornomaganat?

Yes:

Originally referred to as the Demountable Tokamak Fusion Core (DTFC), the name was later changed to refer to the Riggs Bank, which funded development along with Bob Guccione, publisher of the adult magazine Penthouse.

[Joseph Chikva]

Plasma lifetime is minutia. Fusors have operated plasmas for far longer than 60 seconds by continually pumping in energy. Energy confinement time and density are relevant.

See how energy confinement time is calculated for ITER (see the chapter V: "ITER CONFINEMENT SCALING LAWS AND TRANSFORMATION OF IGNITION CURVES TO THE n T AND  T PLANE" formulas (48 ) and (49)
http://iter.rma.ac.be/Stufftodownload/T ... iteria.pdf

[KitemanSA]

SEE?

Really folks, he is too emotionally involved to ever get the point you are trying to make. Don't waste your time.

emotionally?

And who is the bot, constantly repeating the same fairy tale popular in the seventies of last century and unconfirmed since then about immunity of convex fields against instabilities?

Apparently!

[KitemanSA]

wth is a pornomaganat?

I think he meant "porno magnate". Of course, BobG was also a publisher of the widest read SF magazine of the day, OMNI, but surely that had nothing to do with it.

Yup, the chatterbot still demonstrates an inability to understand the simplest concepts.

[JoeP]

OK that explains it. I was thinking he meant making money by making KMnO4 (Permanganate) or something like that at first.

[Joseph Chikva]

Of course, BobG was also a publisher of the widest read SF magazine of the day, OMNI, but surely that had nothing to do with it.

• That only means that Mr. Bob Guccione was too far from scientific world and could be easily deceived.
• That is also means that at least in 70th Bussard wasn't an opponent of TOKAMAK concept.
• That is also means that theory wasn't the strength of Bussard as Rigatron would not be accepted ever by scientific world. As in 70-s already was known well that high aspect ratio TOKAMAK is worse than lower ratio.
• That is also means that apparently Bussard had the ability of belief.
That's all.

[Joseph Chikva]

OK that explains it. I was thinking he meant making money by making KMnO4 (Permanganate) or something like that at first.

He-he
Mr. "I was thinking"