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“The bottom line though is now clear: There’s something there which looks like a Higgs is supposed to look,” wrote mathematician Peter Woit on his blog, Not Even Wrong. According to Woit, there are rumors of new data that would be the most compelling evidence yet for the long-sought Higgs.

AcesHigh wrote:why that title to the thread, and then a different title to the article??

"A particle so evil it's very existence threatens mankind!"

"A pair of otherwise distinguished physicists have suggested that the hypothesized Higgs boson, which physicists hope to produce with the collider, might be so abhorrent to nature that its creation would ripple backward through time and stop the collider before it could make one, like a time traveler who goes back in time to kill his grandfather. . . . This malign influence from the future, they argue, could explain why the United States Superconducting Supercollider, also designed to find the Higgs, was canceled in 1993 after billions of dollars had already been spent, an event so unlikely that Dr. Nielsen calls it an “anti-miracle.”

Diogenes wrote: It's a long running joke. It started when people began noticing how much trouble the LHC was having getting up to speed. People suggested that perhaps we just weren't meant to find the Higgs.

"A pair of otherwise distinguished physicists have suggested that the hypothesized Higgs boson, which physicists hope to produce with the collider, might be so abhorrent to nature that its creation would ripple backward through time and stop the collider before it could make one, like a time traveler who goes back in time to kill his grandfather. . . . This malign influence from the future, they argue, could explain why the United States Superconducting Supercollider, also designed to find the Higgs, was canceled in 1993 after billions of dollars had already been spent, an event so unlikely that Dr. Nielsen calls it an “anti-miracle.”

ladajo wrote:The death of Douglas Adams was a dark day.

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ogiw wrote:

ladajo wrote:The death of Douglas Adams was a dark day.

42.

Sorry, what was your question?

I didn't catch it; I must have been deep in thought.

Enginerd wrote:

Diogenes wrote: It's a long running joke. It started when people began noticing how much trouble the LHC was having getting up to speed. People suggested that perhaps we just weren't meant to find the Higgs.

"A pair of otherwise distinguished physicists have suggested that the hypothesized Higgs boson, which physicists hope to produce with the collider, might be so abhorrent to nature that its creation would ripple backward through time and stop the collider before it could make one, like a time traveler who goes back in time to kill his grandfather. . . . This malign influence from the future, they argue, could explain why the United States Superconducting Supercollider, also designed to find the Higgs, was canceled in 1993 after billions of dollars had already been spent, an event so unlikely that Dr. Nielsen calls it an “anti-miracle.”

"There is a theory which states that if ever for any reason anyone discovers what exactly the Universe is for and why it is here it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another that states that this has already happened."
-Douglas Adams

paperburn1 wrote:

ogiw wrote:

ladajo wrote:The death of Douglas Adams was a dark day.

42.

Sorry, what was your question?

I didn't catch it; I must have been deep in thought.

This must be Thursday. I never could get the hang of Thursdays

The prediction then also follows that the proton has a heavy sister, whose mass is the order of 193 Gev.

This paper discusses the features of the proton mass according to the author's nonlinear, spinor field theory in general relativity. Within its context, where mass doublets are generally predicted for all spinor matter fields, it is shown, in a semi-quantitative fashion, that 1) in addition to the normal (stable) proton there is a heavier proton that has a mass of order 193 GeV and 2) a fundamental constant, g_m∼2.087·10−14 cm, that was determined earlier from a more general version of electrodynamics in which a short-range part plays a role in the nucleon domain, leads to a prediction of the normal proton mass that is within 1.0% of its empirical value.

DeltaV wrote:Does anybody know the significance of the peak near 190 GeV?

The quaternion field theory of matter in general relativity that was developed by this author was applied earlier to the calculation of the inertial masses of the electron and the muon, as a consequence of their (electromagnetic) coupling to their environment, in accordance with the Mach principle. As a consequence of the axiomatic structure, in this theory, the most primitive matter fields are represented by two-component spinor variables. All other « particle » fields must then be built up from these. Thus the high-energy data that are interpreted as referred to massive boson particles must be viewed here in terms of a composite of (electromagnetically) bound spinor particles. In this paper, the general field expression for the inertial mass of a boson is derived as a composite of elementary spinor fields. The neutral pion is a composite of proton and antiproton, the charged pion is a composite of a proton or antiproton with the spinor electromagnetic-field representation of a bound proton-antiproton pair. The theory is applied to a calculation of the mass ratio m(π0)/m(π±) and it is found to be within 0.1% of the experimental ratio.