10KW LENR demonstrator (new thread)

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In the Rossi reaction, there is a very good chance that both the non-inverted Rydberg matter abbreviated as H(1) and the inverted Rydberg matter abbreviated as H(-1) are both coherent assemblages of around 100 atoms more or less and that the entanglement an coherence of these assemblages are determinative in the way both the H(1) and the H(-1) species behaves in the Rossi process.

Just speculating here... I believe the Rossi reaction is designed to bounce a graviton particle beam to create an inverse tachyon pulse, resulting in a resonance burst that simulates an antimatter explosion beyond the subspace barrier, producing a type-four quantum singularity, such that the gravimetric flux density exceeds two thousand percent, where each nano-dimensional polycrystalline nickel fiber will reduce the electromagnetic resistance between adjacent nuclei and thus draw the nuclei sufficiently close that the nuclear strong force binds the nuclei together resulting in fusion that spontaneously releases a catalytic muon, thereby facilitating subsequent fusion events.

I agree with everything you wrote except for the part about a muon catalyzing fusion events. That's just nuts!

[JoeP]

And for fun, Krivit has posted some new stuff, still hammering the Rossi nail.

http://blog.newenergytimes.com/author/sbkrivit/

Krivit's first couple of reports on Rossi were quite good and he was operating from a properly skeptical POV, and yet using the tone of a respectful journalist, and trying to report facts without too much editorializing (although there was a little bit there too, such as the coffee machine comment). Anyway, he seemed like the "adult in the room," especially contrasted with Rossi's instantaneous venom for critics.

But now Krivit is way too emotionally invested. His tone and sneering commentary distract from his points. A bit of a turn-off for this reader, anyway.

[ladajo]

I agree that he has shifted his neutral perspective. But again, the core of his argument is fair. As far as I can tell, rhetoric aside, he has not manufactured any information, and in fact appears to be holding back things that support his position in order to honor agreements and protect sources. At least that is the impression I have from his stuff. Fair enough, it could be him playing a game, but so far I have nothing to make me think that. Unlike Rossi, whom every time he opens his yap, spews for more nonsense and misdirection.
It couuld be one of the great ironies of world history: the guy that came up with the answer to modern conflict is a scam artist. Scientist, no. Engineer, no. Businessman, not so much. Dude sitting on the global game changer, possibly. Vegas odds, not so much.

We shall see, but as long as Rossi continues to refuse to show his cards, no one can claim the pot. As much as Rossi claims it is his, until he tables his cards, it ain't.

[Crawdaddy]

Krivit is a crazed freak.

He is obsessed with something called Windom-Larsen theory which purports to explain cold fusion (most reputable people who have looked at it point out it is deeply flawed).

Anyways, the guy is a typical free energy nutbag. He has no understanding of what he is actually talking about. Just take a look at the presentation he tried to give at the ACS meeting on cold fusion on his youtube page:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i5MXRitINU

Hilarious! And the guy wanted to present this at an ACS meeting!

Hopefully, as this topic becomes more mainstream, more reputable people will begin making arguments and Krivit will be excluded.

[ladajo]

Regardless of your personal opinion, Krivit did produce a good amount of analysis that was balanced and objective regarding what Rossi has and has done with his E-cat.
Of late, yes I agree, Krivit has gone hard over on his rudder. Seems like he is willing to sacrifice himself professionally over the issue.
Again, we shall see who gets the pot. It remains unknown.

[Crawdaddy]

Regardless of your personal opinion, Krivit did produce a good amount of analysis that was balanced and objective regarding what Rossi has and has done with his E-cat.
Of late, yes I agree, Krivit has gone hard over on his rudder. Seems like he is willing to sacrifice himself professionally over the issue.
Again, we shall see who gets the pot. It remains unknown.

Did you look at the youtube video he made? Anyone who could produce such claptrap and expect it to be presented at an ACS meeting is unqualified to analyze anything.

[icarus]

Rossi got his fraud charge in an Italian court for defrauding the shareholders of a company. The point being he was the only shareholder of the company. The machine he had invented and was running competed too well with the local "waste management mafioso" ... the rest is history, the tax charge is always the icing on the cake for those jokers. I'd imagine that Rossi is much the wiser for dealings with the "state" functions on these occasions. Much of his rationale must seem like paranoid rantings but you have no idea where the guy has been in his life so judging someone on what you see is not advisable. He may simply be a product of our Machiavellian corrupt era.

Krivit has wandered with wide-eyed wonder into a viper's nest and is well over his head.

[KitemanSA]

I am saying that you can't explain the lack of radiation.

Can you say STRAWMAN? What "lack of radiation"?

Then you were making a lot of "guesses" and I explained why they are nonsense, using EXISTING theories. Now you behave like a sulky little kid.

What "existing theory" says that IC is nonsense? Specifically.

Would you say that someone who is making theories has to proove them? So where is the proof from the cold fusion gang? If there is none, I suggest you troll someone else.

YOU have stated that this is impossible. YOU have made statements about conditions that don't exist or physics that need not apply. You are making the statements. I am asking for your reasopns. So far, I find your reasoning lacking in scope. Your reasons seem to boil down to effectively stating that this is impossible because it doesn't act like a plasma fusion system would. No s#!t Sherlock.

The Tc for dueterons is ~7K, IIRC. It would be much higher for for cooper pairs. About 148 times higher I think.

A prerequisite for BEC is that the particles are in ground state. If they come so close to the nucleus that they can fuse, they can not be in ground state.

Why not? Can a BEC have motion? Can said motion bring particles that started well away from a nucleus into the vacinity of a nucleous? Again, you seem to be applying lessons from plasma work to solid state. Not a brillient decision.

They can not even be in ground state when they are in a nickel lattice at room temperature. It is simply absurd.

Again, why not? Specifically.

apply them to a high temperature, and imply the will function as a means to thermalize high energetic nuclear power of several kWs

"Thermalize"? Sorry, not sure what you mean here. The assumption, IIRC, is that the pairs somehow escort protons to sufficiently close to Nickel nuclei to allow the strong force to bring them in.

A BEC is an extremely orderly structure and will certainly not "escort" a thermal moving proton, otherwise it had to be moving thermal, too.

If the transition temperature (which actually would be more like 1800 times, not the 148 I mentioned earlier, applied to 2/3 exponent to the wrong factor) is well over the temperature of the lattice, why couldn't it condense?

(Btw, in the link you provided, cooper electrons are not even mentioned.) But this is off the point. I was not talking about the claimed cold fusion process, but the fact that we do not measure the radiation we expect to.

WHO expects to? Who is "we"? What radiation is expected? Who expects that radiation and WHY? Specifically.

For cold fusion, a small but finite propability per collision is sufficient, whereas for shielding, we need a propability close to 1. And this is not happening unless the electron[s] are almost within the nucleus. Where they cannot be unless they have a lot of energy above ground state and thus are neither BEC nor cooper pairs.

What these assertions based upon? Specifically. Support you staatement, please.

(meaning that the BEC is even HOTTER than the nickel lattice).

Interesting assumption. Why?

You say, the radiation is somehow collected by the BEC, so that we don't detect it. When thermal power is flowing from the BEC to nickel, the former has to be hotter.

Seems we are having a problem with communication. I NEVER stated nor ever intended to suggest that the radiation is somehow "collected" but the Conglomerate Particle (CP) (be it a BEC or a polariton, or whatever). I suggested that one electron (or perhaps both in the case of a BEC of cooper pairs) that makes up a SMALL part of the CP could be close enough to interact with the excited nucleus in a manner similar to IC, carrying away most if not all of the excitation (binding) energy from the proton reaction. This would tend to leave a hole in the CP, but I have no idea how many holes might be tolerated. No new physics here, just a new way of applying the same old physics. Of course, I have no idea what may be new to you.

But Brem is X-ray and X-ray can be shielded by a bit of lead. Rossi has repeatedly said that the e-cats are shielded with lead.

What is the average energy of bremsstrahlung from 6MeV electrons? How much lead do you need to shield that (Hint: I already wrote that) ?

I suspect that depends on where it dumps it's energy, no?

WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING. There was a GM tube next to the reactor. Why didn't it pick up anything?

I saw it change from ~15 to ~12 when the probe was moved away, or are you talking about something of which I am not aware?

So you agree the radiation from the instable Copper isotopes is less than the one from the 40nW CS-137 source in the video? How can it be that little?

I don't know. I didn't see the Cs137 source behind a 1cm shield of lead.

Just to be sure of our conversation, are we talking about the binding energy, ~6MeV type source or are we talking about the 61Cu to 61Ni β+ decay? In fact, escort electrons may be involved in suppressing both radiation sources. The IC process for the 6MeV emission has been repeatedly mentioned. But it should also be noted that when β+ decay is the norm, the same effect will sometimes happen with electron capture. Indeed, with a PAIR of electrons (if Cooper pairs are involved) may provide one electron to stabilize the nucleus and one to carry away the energy in a manner similar to IC.

[TallDave]

Customers!

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-11-ros ... omers.html

Either one of the greatest scams ever is about to blow up, or the world is about to change. Either way, time for popcorn!

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Krivit has wandered with wide-eyed wonder into a viper's nest and is well over his head.

Rossi has so solidified the confirmation bias in his supporters that they are even using his language. Snakes and vipers, oh my.

[MSimon]

YOU have made statements about conditions that don't exist or physics that need not apply.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MSimon]

Seems like he is willing to sacrifice himself professionally over the issue.

Or make a name for himself if it is a fraud.

[KitemanSA]

YOU have made statements about conditions that don't exist or physics that need not apply.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Really, his statements aren't THAT funny!

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Seems like he is willing to sacrifice himself professionally over the issue.

Or make a name for himself if it is a fraud.

Or just call it as he sees it.

[Enginerd]

I am saying that you can't explain the lack of radiation.

Can you say STRAWMAN? What "lack of radiation"?

"Anything else you wish to draw to my attention, Mr. Holmes ?"
"The curious incident of the stable dog in the nighttime."
"But the dog did nothing in the nighttime."
"That was the curious incident."
-- A. Conan Doyle, "Silver Blaze"