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Axil
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Post by Axil »

The complete Mills theory is documented in a 1700 page book that can be found on his web site.

click on free book access:

http://www.blacklightpower.com/theory-2/book/

the book streams to your computer very fast and easy to read (not necessarily understand, you have to put some work into it)

standalone atoms are fully described all the way down to quarks and gluons

Asterix
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Re: BLP news

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Axil, thank you, no--I'll let people more familiar with Mills and his theories comment.

But whatever happened to the 2010 licensing agreement for 750MW continuous-production units with geogreen.it?

It's been almost 4 years, after all--and not a peep from Geoenergie or Geo-green. You'd think that Mills would have to have a multi-megawatt unit operational to license it.

GIThruster
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Good question. I'd just note, they released their supposed expert validations of the CIHT back about 18 months ago and have been silent since. I think they got some funding and focused on CIHT development. Now they say they've got a million watt CIHT. I think best is see what comes from the public demonstration.

I have a fair degree of confidence they can measure the power out by use of calorimetry since the current setup was designed and used at Rowan for a couple years, with input from Earthtech as well. Measuring the power in is not difficult and these folks are not the type to like Rossi, fail to note whether the voltage and current are in phase and know exactly how much power is going in.

The reaction products can be analyzed and supposedly have. We should expect to see some reports on this. Not only do we need to see evidence of these hydrinos, but we need to see chemical analysis to know the catalysts are just that and not reactants. So just analyzing all the data is complex and this presumes one will have access to all the relevant data.

As always, still more questions than answers but I do respect the notion of a "public demonstration".
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"Courage is not just a virtue, but the form of every virtue at the testing point." C. S. Lewis

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Re: BLP news

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Sounds to good to be true, ..... :wink:
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Axil
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Report From an Attendee of the Blacklight Power Demonstration

http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/01/repor ... nstration/
I’d like to thank Steve Menton for writing up the following report after attending yesterday’s demonstration at Blacklight Power.

The post yesterday by “Investor”is 100% correct. You cannot draw conclusions about BLP from what you read on the Internet. Randy has developed an extremely comprehensive, elegant theory that is utilized to direct his laboratory efforts. After years of pointless arguments on the old hydrino study group, I have zero interest in engaging in any theory debates on the internet. However, in my view, those who don’t spend the time to review the extensive body of work that Mills has developed and put it in context, cannot meaningfully comment upon the BLPs work.

I am a Blacklight investor and purchased my first shares in 1999 AFTER following Randy’s efforts for about two years and reading all of the derogatory comments from Peter Zimmerman, Steven Chu, Bob Park and a multitude of others. I did my own due diligence and concluded that none of them really understood what Randy was saying and they had not spent any time reviewing the experimental work. That is the common refrain with most of Mills’ critics. Believe me, I fully understand the controversy surrounding the theory. However, as Randy said multiple times yesterday, at the end of the day, experimental results trump theory. He has for a long time been accumulating results that cannot be explained by currently accepted QM. In fact, many of his results directly contravene what current theory says is possible. Under the circumstances, of course it is necessary to be cautious but the results speak for themselves.

You can stick your head in the sand and pretend the results are not possible or reliable, but there are an increasing number of replications by qualified and reputable organizations and this has been going on for a while. The number of replications has been steadily increasing and many have been done independently and offsite. Some are readily available to those who expend even a minimal amount of effort. I have yet to hear of a negative result from a competent replicator who correctly followed the Blacklight protocols. Indeed, every person that I know who has been to the Blacklight lab and reviewed the results is convinced that the experiments are real, carefully and competently performed and the results are significant. Those who have been following Blacklights work for a while know that there has been steady, albeit at times frustratingly slow, progress. You have to realize that there are no books or resources for Randy to turn to in pursuing his experiments other than his own theory and brain. While there have been some starts and stops along the way, the recently announced results are the accumulation of years of experimentation driven by theory.


So, about the demo. There were about 65 to 70 people present. There was no opportunity for a meet and greet. I did not know most of the attendees, but there were representatives from chemical and engineering firms present as well as OEMs and major investment banks. I am not sure of the extent of media present. There were no TV cameras, but there was a video being taken. Many people were taking notes, but I don’t think there was a lot of mainstream media there. I think the presentation was geared more towards developing interest among potential licensees and partners rather than media. Media will come in time.


Randy stated that the SF-CIHT results have been validated by four outside groups, but only one spoke at the meeting. That validator was from Rowan University so I am sure that many of the critics will dismiss his comments out of hand. Whatever. I tend to believe people who actually view the experiments and study the results rather than simply post negative comments on the Internet. The validator unequivocally confirmed the reported results from the newly developed SF-CIHT cell and stated it was a “game changer”. I thought one interesting moment was when the validator was asked whether he believed in hydrinos. His answer was something to the effect that this wasn’t a matter of belief, but about experimental results and that he was confident in the results.

The demonstrations were instantaneous bursts with input and output measured by established commercial devices including waterbath calorimetry. Continuous operation was not demonstrated so skeptics will likely be dismissive of the results. Randy spent some time explaining plans for achieving continuous operation. While there are some engineering issues ahead, the energy outputs are so astounding that there should be multiple ways to make useful devices.


While I have seen some comments that BLP rushed this demo because of recent developments relating to Rossi, such commenters obviously don’t know Randy. Randy is going to do things on his time and nobody else’s. He is not concerned with Rossi and, from second hand reports I have heard, BLP does not view Rossi as competition because they do not think his experiments are professionally done and do not believe that he is accurately measuring energy input and output.


My overall impression is that this demo was put together because, after many years of slow but steady progress, Blacklight has made recent, dramatic improvements in the energy densities. I think Randy believes the results are unassailable and irrefutable. My sense is that yesterday was the first step in what will be an evolving, more visible presence for Blacklight as they continue to advance the technology.
It remains to be seen if a guy with an invalid theory can make this newly rediscover process into something.

I believe that he has rediscovered the Papp reaction.

Skipjack
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This poster unfortunately does not add anymore credibility to the whole thing. I mean he was already a believer and so he just got what he perceived as more confirmation of his believes.
I would have been more impressed, had this been a previous skeptic and with a few more details about what was actually shown and how "impressive" it really was.

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Post by AcesHigh »

these demos by BLP, Rossi, etc, they are always the same pathetic small things designed so only BELIEVERS will see them. Either that or you probably pay a a big fee, which helps fund the whole scam, since there are always demos and nothing substantial ever happens.

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Re: BLP news

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Does anyone have a guess as to why BLP announced this demo in the first place if the information released so far is all they ever planned to tell the world? I mean, they could have had the same demo with the same attendees just by having a few private communications. There was no need to tell the world but since they did, so far the information released to the public makes them look really stupid.

On the same hand, announcing a demo of a device while it was still under construction (that was my read of the material) made them look a little ????? in the first place.

I mean, it used to be that you completed your device, you checked it out, you planned your presentation, did a few dry runs (rehearsals) then you did your dog and pony show. Then you told the world how you Wowed your audience and they told how Wowed they were, too. What happened to that method of promotion?
Aero

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Or, since construction is so cheap, make the real thing, make electric power, sell power, make money hand over fist, make more devices, boot strap your way to Gatesville. Watch while people line up to find out how you are doing it after you have made your first billion. LOL. Instead....it is all an entertainment magic show. You know, smoke, mirrors, slight of hand, spoon bending stuff that fools "the scientists" but not magicians.
Counting the days to commercial fusion. It is not that long now.

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Aero wrote:Does anyone have a guess as to why BLP announced this demo in the first place if the information released so far is all they ever planned to tell the world? I mean, they could have had the same demo with the same attendees just by having a few private communications. There was no need to tell the world but since they did, so far the information released to the public makes them look really stupid.

On the same hand, announcing a demo of a device while it was still under construction (that was my read of the material) made them look a little ????? in the first place.

I mean, it used to be that you completed your device, you checked it out, you planned your presentation, did a few dry runs (rehearsals) then you did your dog and pony show. Then you told the world how you Wowed your audience and they told how Wowed they were, too. What happened to that method of promotion?
Right. Comparatively, the last Rossi "3rd Party Test" beats this BLP "Demo" -- both in available information, reports from testers, hype, and media available on the net. I thought this Mills character was supposed to be rather smart?

GIThruster
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He is smart. Odds are he has another dozen investors lined up to pay to build what he was really presenting.
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Skipjack
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GIThruster wrote:He is smart. Odds are he has another dozen investors lined up to pay to build what he was really presenting.
Then why present the thing in the first place?

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mvanwink5 wrote:Or, since construction is so cheap, make the real thing, make electric power, sell power, make money hand over fist, make more devices, boot strap your way to Gatesville. Watch while people line up to find out how you are doing it after you have made your first billion. LOL. Instead....it is all an entertainment magic show. You know, smoke, mirrors, slight of hand, spoon bending stuff that fools "the scientists" but not magicians.
Yup. Same thought imho with Doc Prins.
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GIThruster
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No one said making the thing is cheap. Making it will cost a couple million at least, just for the mechanical engineering.
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