Lunar Bombing, Far Left Insanity, and Polywell

[kurt9]

UGH, MSIMON has to inject his FAR right politics into this site again. Let's just stick to the polywell science talk and leave the bible thumping right wing mumbo jumbo out ok?

Thanks.

Give him a break. THIS time, he's hardly opened his mouth.

If you have to point fingers at someone, try kurt9.

Trust me, I despise the far right as much as the liberal-left. Having said that, I will refrain from making any more political comments in this discussion forum.

[KitemanSA]

UGH, MSIMON has to inject his FAR right politics into this site again. Let's just stick to the polywell science talk and leave the bible thumping right wing mumbo jumbo out ok?
Thanks.

I have to take issue with your political descriptions. Libertarians are described as 'radical right'. The 'far right' is something else entirely...

And I will have to disagree with your description. Libertarians are not 'radical right' or 'far right' or any kind of left or right, they are forward.

Take the world's smallest political quiz and find out where you stand.
http://www.theadvocates.org/quizp/index.html

[Diogenes]

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http://lafiga.firedoglake.com/2009/10/0 ... ny-levels/

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See comment 59.

Side note - how they managed to get a link in to a wing nut like me is a study in cognitive dissonance. I am most amused.

There is an idiot at the other end of that link! Why give them the traffic ?

[Diogenes]

UGH, MSIMON has to inject his FAR right politics into this site again. Let's just stick to the polywell science talk and leave the bible thumping right wing mumbo jumbo out ok?

Thanks.

You are showing your ignorance. MSimon is NOT a bible thumper. If anything, he seems to be pretty antagonistic towards bible thumpers. I'm not a bible thumper either, but I regard them as allies, and believe their reliance on that old book probably makes them more sensible than intellectuals who know better.

MSimon is more of a Libertarian type, which depending on how you view the political spectrum, puts him to the right of me. He favor's legalizing all drugs, and most likely the other libertarian ideas as well.

[Diogenes]

UGH, MSIMON has to inject his FAR right politics into this site again. Let's just stick to the polywell science talk and leave the bible thumping right wing mumbo jumbo out ok?

Thanks.

I have to take issue with your political descriptions. Libertarians are described as 'radical right'. The 'far right' is something else entirely...

Here's an article that sheds a lot of light on the issue of political spectrum.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/ ... spect.html



This is the common view.




This is the more accurate view.




This puts MSimon to the right of me, (and i'm a right wing extremist! ) sort of.

Just trying to be helpful.

[Betruger]

The political spectrum doesn't have just one dimension.

Someone calling MSimon a bible thumper is pretty funny.

[Diogenes]

The political spectrum doesn't have just one dimension.

Perhaps this is better maybe?



The red dot represents where I fell on the political spectrum after taking their test. The test can be found here.


http://www.theadvocates.org/quizp/index.html

(as KitemanSA indicated earlier.)

Someone calling MSimon a bible thumper is pretty funny.

Yeah, that is pretty funny.

[djolds1]

The political spectrum doesn't have just one dimension.

There are plenty of political spectrum charts. I personally like the Pournelle Axes, tho it fails to capture how opinions evolve and relate over time. The Inglehart Values Map has good points too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum

Someone calling MSimon a bible thumper is pretty funny.

Yes.

[Professor Science]

This is the more accurate view.

Excellent troll, 10/10, would be trolled again.

[BenTC]

According to that quiz, this is me
PERSONAL issues Score is 90%.
ECONOMIC issues Score is 50%.

LIBERALS usually embrace freedom of choice in personal matters, but tend to support significant government control of the economy. They generally support a government-funded "safety net" to help the disadvantaged, and advocate strict regulation of business. Liberals tend to favor environmental regulations, defend civil liberties and free expression, support government action to promote equality, and tolerate diverse lifestyles.

btw, for future reference, how do you link in pictures?

[Diogenes]

According to that quiz, this is me
PERSONAL issues Score is 90%.
ECONOMIC issues Score is 50%.

LIBERALS usually embrace freedom of choice in personal matters, but tend to support significant government control of the economy. They generally support a government-funded "safety net" to help the disadvantaged, and advocate strict regulation of business. Liberals tend to favor environmental regulations, defend civil liberties and free expression, support government action to promote equality, and tolerate diverse lifestyles.

btw, for future reference, how do you link in pictures?

Usually you can just copy an image location(right click on picture) and paste it into your post. Then you use the img button on the message editor to turn it into an image when displayed.

I couldn't do that with that last chart I uploaded so I copied the picture to my desktop, then posted it onto my flickr account, then got the url for the picture on my flickr account and pasted it in my message then used the img button.

I think pictures make life more interesting. A picture is worth a thousand words.

[Diogenes]

The political spectrum doesn't have just one dimension.

There are plenty of political spectrum charts. I personally like the Pournelle Axes, tho it fails to capture how opinions evolve and relate over time. The Inglehart Values Map has good points too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum

Someone calling MSimon a bible thumper is pretty funny.

Yes.

The Pournelle chart seems to be rather inaccurate. The communists (international socialists) and the Nazis (National Socialists) are virtually identical, yet the chart shows them at opposite sides on the "Reason" scale. I'm sorry, but I see little distinction between the Nazis and the Comies.


I think a lot of people who have no firsthand knowledge of conservatives or conservative positions have serious knowledge gaps about what conservatives believe.




Firstly, Conservatives are strict constructionists, meaning they defer to original intent of constitutional law. The basis for this is that words are simply the means of conveying ideas. It is the ideas which are important, not how many interpretations you can twist out of the words.






It is not the paper, or the ink, or a specific arangement of words, it is the Meaning and intent behind the paper the ink and the wording. THAT is what is to be conserved.

I dare say, if that one simple requirement was maintained, conservatives would likely remain happy and go back to ignoring politics the way we used to.

All we are asking is that Liberals stop lying about what the constitution says and stop interpreting it subjectively. If original intent were followed, it would be immediately obvious that the government is in serious violation of our founding documents and 90% of the government is currently illegal.


I'm going to stop now. I will get carried away if I continue.

[djolds1]

The political spectrum doesn't have just one dimension.

There are plenty of political spectrum charts. I personally like the Pournelle Axes, tho it fails to capture how opinions evolve and relate over time. The Inglehart Values Map has good points too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum

The Pournelle chart seems to be rather inaccurate. The communists (international socialists) and the Nazis (National Socialists) are virtually identical, yet the chart shows them at opposite sides on the "Reason" scale. I'm sorry, but I see little distinction between the Nazis and the Comies.

You're ignoring the fact that the Pournelle Axes use two discriminators. He places Communists and Fascists as nigh-identical wrt statism. As to rationalism, I think Pournelle identifies Nazis with 19th century nationalist romanticism and the revival of mysticism popular around the turn of the 20th century. The Nazis idolized nature and "the blood," the communists fetishized "science" (often Lysenkoism, yes, but they focused on "systematic research" regardless). Very different subjective takes on rationalism.

[alexjrgreen]

UGH, MSIMON has to inject his FAR right politics into this site again. Let's just stick to the polywell science talk and leave the bible thumping right wing mumbo jumbo out ok?
Thanks.

I have to take issue with your political descriptions. Libertarians are described as 'radical right'. The 'far right' is something else entirely...

And I will have to disagree with your description. Libertarians are not 'radical right' or 'far right' or any kind of left or right, they are forward.

Explanation here: Libertarianism: Left or Right?

[KitemanSA]

... And I will have to disagree with your description. Libertarians are not 'radical right' or 'far right' or any kind of left or right, they are forward.

Explanation here: Libertarianism: Left or Right?

That is nice, but we ain't 19th century French or anything like it. With today's meanings of the terms, Libs are not leftist, nor are they rightist, they are... forwardists I guess is the best term.