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Betruger
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Post by Betruger »

chrismb wrote:
Betruger wrote:Nevermind that it's with little doubt taken out of context. He was speaking strictly regarding WB results. And where's the legalese that obligates EMC2 to release the info the public has paid for? What info has the public paid for?
5 U.S.C. § 552, As Amended By Public Law No. 104-231, 110 Stat. 3048
FOIA legalese which EMC2 also legitimately used to dodge the FOIA request. Maybe they did it because they knew the Navy would appreciate it. That's as good an explanation as any conspiracy theory or moral brow beat. Either way if Dr Nebel says "no BS or excuses" WRT to reporting show stoppers, and no show stoppers have happened yet, there's no reason to call it a bluff if he deviates an FOIA request. Which in my opinion is a pretty unsavory means of acquiring information, even if with the best intentions.

Maybe if FOIA is retroactive some earlier data can be retrieved from WB6.

DeltaV
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Post by DeltaV »

chrismb wrote:I have no idea at all how commercial issues impact the release of the Navy's own peer-review, excepting where it contains any details of new features in the experiment not yet published. Those can be redacted easily without affecting the sense of that peer review.
Is it established that the Navy organized the independent peer review? I was under the impression that EMC2 did this of it's own accord, to keep everything "above board". The Navy monitored, of course.

icarus
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Post by icarus »

Any opportunity to socialise the costs ... and privatise the gains.

and another beautiful public-private partnership is formed ... but hey, "we're here to help humanity".

vankirkc
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Post by vankirkc »

zbarlici wrote:suppose Nebel wants to talk contrary to navy wishes/contractual obligations. The us navy would cut his funding and he`d be forced to seek funding from elsewhere. Nebel would secure his R&D funding in a heartbeat if disclosure of WB7 results do indicate success. But the whole idea(helping mankind etc) was to keep the patent from falling in a private company`s hands.
It's probably worse for him than you state here. To start with, he may be liable for some kind of treason charge for divulging state secrets, and even if this isn't a possibility at minimum he would lose his 'real' job, because it undoubtably entails keeping secrets.

No, if you're under contract to keep a secret, your best course of action is to keep that secret.

ladajo
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Post by ladajo »

vankirk, read the contract.

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